Re: an assertion about Oracle Ed.

Hi M Fowler,

Why precisely do you blame the fact there aren't more Tom Kyte's in this world on Oracle Education ? Are you suggesting that OE should put the "right stuff" into people (via some kind of military camp where the weak are subjected to torturous exercises to toughen them up a bit), or are you suggesting that OE courses should last approximately 10 years so it can adequately cover the information stored in Mr Kyte's head.

OK, I'm being touch silly...

But training, not matter how good or comprehensive can only get you so far. I would suggest most "gurus" (aka Tom Kyte, Jonathon Lewis, Steve Adams, David Bowie, etc. etc.) have gone out and researched and experimented and shown the *imitative* to learn and investigate issues on their own.

OE provides a valuable (albeit overly expensive) first step. Experience and an individual's drive to learn and improve is the next essential ingredient.

I believe the following is the reason for "the sorry state for Oracle understanding". Many understand the costs associated with training and the costs associated with taking time out to learn and investigate. Not so many appreciate the costs associated with ignorance.

BTW, I no longer work for Oracle, these are truly my thoughts.

Cheers

Richard

"m. fowler" <mfowler_at_dot.co.pima.az.us> wrote in message news:e9c5a67.0207310803.dfae410_at_posting.google.com...
> I am finally working my way thru Tom Kyte's first book 'expert
> one-on-one', after reading( I am not ashamed to say, tho I've worked
> as a developer and dba w/Oracle products since the mid-80's, am OCP
> 'certified' and so on ) 'Beginning Oracle Programming'. I think
> 'expert' to be a remarkable book( though not unique - there are a few
> others from individuals with the right stuff ) - partly because it
> shows what one person with the necessary work ethic and other
> desirable qualities can accomplish, all the while making it look easy
> - he also had some formidable help, as noted here:
>
> http://wdvl.internet.com/Authoring/DB/Oracle/OneonOne/interview.html
>
> After seeing what is possible I was led to consider the following
> assertion: The number one reason for the sorry state of Oracle
> understanding is none other than Oracle Education. Aside from the
> usual diatribes that will appear I wonder how others who have thought
> a little about this over the years might respond.
Received on Thu Aug 01 2002 - 08:30:34 CDT