On Mon, 01 Jul 2002 12:47:28 -0400, Daniel Morgan wrote:
> Sybrand Bakker wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 29 Jun 2002 19:36:51 +0100, "Paul Brewer"
>> <paul_at_paul.brewers.org.uk> wrote:
>>
>> >"Tom Barnes" <barnest_at_san.rr.com> wrote in message
>> >news:ae6b6116.0206261659.49fb18b1_at_posting.google.com...
>> >> Part of the problem seems to be the lack of communication between
>> >> the DBAs and the developers. I recommend that you don't separate
>> >> your people into two camps of "DBAs" and "developers". You'll need
>> >> to work together constantly!
>> >
>> >Sorry, but I disagree with sentence 2. The responsibilities,
>> >accountabilities and skillsets differ, so IMHO, in other than the
>> >smallest shop, there should be a demarcation line. But I agree
>> >entirely with sentences 1 and 3; developers and DBAs do need to work
>> >together cooperatively to build, deploy and maintain successful
>> >applications, and given a set of intelligent, mature adults I see no
>> >reason why this should present any problem.
>> >
>> >Regards,
>> >Paul
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> Most organisations I have been consulting for have *Chinese Walls*
>> between dba's and developers, with developers looking down on DBAs
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Sybrand Bakker, Senior Oracle DBA
>>
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>
> And visa versa. DBAs refusing even the most reasonable developer
> requests such as granting SELECT on some v$ objects.
>
> The problem comes from both camps. And ultimately should be laid at the
> feet of management that doesn't understand that there is no such
> (singular) position as DBA.
>
> The solution, in my view, is to separate production DBAs from
> developerment DBAs. Production DBAs should rule as gods over their
> databases and keep developers, testers, hackers, and everyone else out
> ... especially including management types.
I've never had the opportunity to work in an organization large enough to
have the luxury of production vs development DBAs, though I like the
concept.
Received on Mon Jul 01 2002 - 19:32:55 CDT
