Re: whats going on

"shrinad_at_ora-india.com" <daekw_at_yahoo.com> wrote in message news:afam95$fvs$00$2_at_news.t-online.com...
> why nobody can read documentation ??
>
> most of the questions in this newsgroup are ridiculous !!
>
> is the level of the questions in this group comparable with the knowledge
in
> the industry ?
>
> IT professional saying learning is boring we want just click a round
>
> can somebody without technical background, without studying,
> without sweat and pain achieve something usefull with oracle ( in 3 days
at
> the best ) ?
>
> question in this group:
> ( help I cannot operate winzip, for unzipping oracle, I just want to build
a
> litte RAC system)
>
>
> no he cannot and this is fine. but me fear is will this fall back to the
> product Oracle ??
>
> I have heard a lot of "professionals" saying, oracle is to hard to work
for
> me.
> I do not like learning, I will tell my boss go for sqlserver, because it
is
> "better"
> for me.
>
> Most of the "professionals" want to click a little. Limits of the product
> are not
> a concern of these people, because this will net be their personal fault.
>
> They can tell their boss, this doesnt work its not my fault. A product
which
> is
> complicated and unlimited like Oracle they do not like, because it would
be
> their fault .
>
> Also companies like to split their systems in a lot of small databases
> all working with incompatible applications, and all operated by clueless
> people.
>
> This is not good for Oracle, because this is the microsoft way.
>
> Will this change in the future because billions of dollars were spend with
> nightmare systems, companies IT infrastructure is a utter patchwork today.
>
> so what will be the future for Oracle in this environment ???
>
>
>
>

Looks like you will be flamed in the next few days. Not that those flames are justified, basically you are completely right. Most people here

- are too lazy to read the documentation
- are too lazy to visit FAQ resources
- are too lazy to search google
- only seem to have learned how to cross and multipost

Yet, a small bunch of people, of -say -less than 10 people, answer the same questions over and over again.
Some of them get irritated once in a while and start making cynic and /or sarcastic remarks.
However, those are the people that are constantly faced with the products of *completely incompetent* developers, who basically never learnt more than how to hit a button, and usually didn't even *learn* SQL. How often I have read
' in (select distinct bar from foo)', I have stopped counting. How often I saw applications bringing a system on it's knees because there were full table scans on the largest tables in the application, I stopped counting.
How many extra hours I made because of this (and am currently making) I stopped counting (and I can't compensate for them, as my department consists of juniors only, who can't handle anything without involving me, or having me do it)

I think Larry decided to make Oracle self-tuning just because of those incompetent people. Most of those people are likely not going to be competent ever. Sometimes I am amazed at the type of questions they ask after 2 years of Oracle experience. Basically, they never opened a manual, and they still don't open manuals.
So as far as Oracle is concerned: if you can't beat them, join them. Sad but true!

Regards

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Sybrand Bakker
Senior Oracle DBA

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