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From: wangbin@start.com.au (wangbin)
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Subject: Re: http://www.hjrdba.com/
Date: 5 May 2002 17:17:17 -0700
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> I don't believe this was corporate greed.  WHether we like it or not, anything
> we put out on our own time needs to go through all sorts of hoops and jumps with
> Legal, because when we get something wrong, as an Oracle employee Oracle can get
> sued for this.  This can be particularly dangerous in the backup/recovery area
> because one piece of wrong advice can lead to a corrupted database.

If company loses data because database isn't recoverable, the
immediate action is to sack the DBA, since it is DBA's responsibility
to test backup and recover procedure. The next action may be to sack
the manager whom the DBA report to. That's it.

> > From the
> > conversations, it seemed that Oracle was worried that somebody might act
> > on incorrect information in Howard's site and then Oracle would could
> > get sued.  Therefore, they forced Howard to shut his site down.
> 
> 
> Yes, and some of us didn't believe that.  

Let's say an intruder captures sensitive information from Oracle
unbreakable database in your company because of the bug '2121935 -
SELECT USING CROSS JOIN WITH DUAL DOES NOT CHECK FOR USER PRIVILEGES'.
What will you do? You will ask patch from Oracle. That's those
hundreds of thousands of patchs for. Nonody will sue Oracle. If you do
want to sue Oracle, have a look at Oracle License and Services
Agreement: 'ORACLE DOES NOT GUARANTEE THAT THE PROGRAMS WILL PERFORM
ERROR-FREE OR UNINTERRUPTED OR THAT ORACLE WILL CORRECT ALL PROGRAM
ERRORS.' Could oracle guarantee the accuracy of its docs, even though
they cannot guarantee its program? I think the answer is no. Can
Howard do the same thing? Put 'I DO NOT GUARANTEE ......' on his site.

> 
> The only other fact I know is that someone, whose only condition was total
> anonymity, rang HR to inform them of the existence of the site and/or to
> complain about its contents, from which all ensued.
Well, anyone who know a little bit politics will understand what's
happening.

Bin