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Re: Oracle 9i DB Security Hole

From: Jonathan Lewis <jonathan_at_jlcomp.demon.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 14:07:17 +0100
Message-ID: <1019221583.21218.0.nnrp-01.9e984b29@news.demon.co.uk>

Funnily enough, the DBF 2002 Forum in Sydney includes a session

    "How to test"
by that <quote> respected Oracle consultant Jonathan Lewis <end quote>.

It is JUST (barely) possible, that if I had got around to testing ANSI joins I would have spotted an anomaly because I test every new feature whilst running a 10046 trace and three different internal snapshots after flushing the shared_pool - - IF I think there may be a vague chance of a significant performance issue.

But I don't think I would have bothered with that sort of extreme with ANSI joins; I 'd have just checked that the access paths were unsurprising and cost about the same as the syntactically equivalent Oracle versions.

Who, after all, is going to say things like:

    Does an inline view result in access violation     Does explicit partition naming result in access violation     Does a cross join result in access violation     Does subquery unnesting result in access violation     Does flashback query result in access violation

        (Hm! I hadn't thought of that one before - I wonder ..)     Does common subexpression elimination result in access violation

Of course, it is still worth asking how a security testing organisation can know much more than the average specialist about Oracle and what is possible from day one. How do you test a brand new product when the designers and coders don't even know what all the features can do when they are put together.

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Jonathan Lewis
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Practical Oracle 8i: Building Efficient Databases

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Nuno Souto wrote in message
<3cbffc9e$0$15477$afc38c87_at_news.optusnet.com.au>...

>
>What gets me is: Oracle obviously paid a lot of money to some companies
>to get 9i certified for security compliance. How come such a gaping hole
>sneaked through? What sort of testing for security was really done? One
>wonders if it is worth spending the $$$ on these "certifications"...
>
Received on Fri Apr 19 2002 - 08:07:17 CDT

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