Re: Quick Tale: Lost production database because of keyboard and Veritas Cluster Server

Well, as being one of your defenders...

You really didn't help yourself out a lot with a "try and try again" sort of attitude as regards PRODUCTION.

That would rather sort of be like an open-heart surgery patient on the table overhearing the last words before anaesthesia sets in like : "Oh well, if it doesn't work on this guy, next time let's not split open the next patient's chest, we'll try and implant the electrodes internally; maybe the survival rate will improve somewhat."

As Yoda said, "There is no 'try', there is just DO.", when it comes to production.

RSH. "milkfilk" <milkfilk_at_yahoo.com> wrote in message news:90d82e70.0202281535.1b83a743_at_posting.google.com...
> Rich Teer <rich_at_rite-group.com> wrote in message
news:<Pine.GSO.4.44.0202280942280.16793-100000_at_grover.rite-group.com>...
> > On Thu, 28 Feb 2002, RSH wrote:
> >
> > > Touching anything on a live production system is something I would
never do;
> > > but it has happened and a person has a problem. All I have mostly seen
are
> > > variations of "How could you be so STUPID?" or lists of things that if
done
> > > before the fact could have prevented the current situation. And now,
jumping
> > > down my throat because I objected to treating someone with a genuine
mess on
> > > their hands as an object of ridicule instead of offering useful
assistance,
> > > and then treating me with a similar level of contempt.
> >
> > It's no excuse for such behaviour, but look at it this way: there are
> > many very talented people who frequent these newsgroups, many of whom
> > are out of work - possibly because someone with less (or no) experience
> > is "doing" their job, cheaper. These cheap newbies blow things up,
> > and then ask here for free help - from the very people that they're
> > helping to keep out of work (indirectly, perhaps).
>
> Excuse for such behavior? I didn't realize I had to justify "If at
> first you don't suceed, try try again"
>
> While one man is afraid to make a mistake, another is erring, learning
> and growing stronger.
>
> You think it's limited to technology? geekism? anything?
> http://www.washtech.com/washtechway/1_18/cover/3657-1.html
>
>
> >
> > I guess it is a little unfair to blame the newbies (we were all newbies
> > once), but us unemoloyed people have got to vent our frustration
somehow!
>
> I was unemployed after the Sept 11th crash. Believe me, I'm making
> what I'm worth. Not nothing, not everything. I'm making something
> reasonable.
>
> Simple economic theory will tell you that everything evens out and
> valuable skill pays off. If you are in demand, chances are you'll get
> paid eventually. But I think I'm getting out of scope.
>
> >
> > Of course, the real people to blame are the clueless, cheapskate
> > management types who hire newbies - with no experience, and noone
> > else on site to back them up (mentor them, if you will). But the
> > PHB's don't come here asking for help, so I'm afraid the messanger
> > gets shot instead.
>
> Now I'm on the defensive. Cover your ears.
>
> I may be a newbie to this particular problem, but I'm not a newbie.
> I've written my own PHP-nuke equivalent, done simple MySQL distributed
> db design, Linux clustering (one-disk new node setup with LVM, RedHat
> Kickstart and a zillion other automated services)
>
> How about solved this little gem in java with no formal training?
>
> ------------------------------------------
> Programming Problem
>
> Given a deck of nCards unique cards, cut the deck iCut cards from top
> and perform a perfect shuffle. A perfect shuffle begins by putting
> down the bottom card from the top portion of the deck followed by the
> bottom card from the bottom portion of the deck followed by the next
> card from the top portion, etc., alternating cards until one portion
> is used up. The remaining cards go on top. The problem is to find the
> number of perfect shuffles required to return the deck to its original
> order. Your function should be declared as:
>
> static long shuffles(int nCards,int iCut);
> ------------------------------------------
>
> I'll send you my java source. I've built linux routers, BIND8
> domains, Tomcat / JSP stuff, coded my own Perl/CGI photo album,
> countless Linux/Solaris scripts. I wasn't a computer science major,
> I've self studied everything and I have no idea why I feel like
> justifying all this crap to a #$%_at_ing anonymous group anyway.
>
> I apologize for being defensive. A week like mine make you second
> guess yourself a lot.
>
> I should get some sleep and keep the good stuff you all have said.
>
>
> --Milk
Received on Tue Mar 05 2002 - 00:27:27 CST