Re: Is Sr. DBAs afraid of not be able to pass cert exam ??

That was poetry... pure poetry. How long before the managers will understand it? hahah

Tom
www.oraclepower.com

"koert54" <koert54_at_nospam.com> wrote in message news:k9X58.107583$rt4.9114_at_afrodite.telenet-ops.be...
> * the ways of the Tao *
> http://www.interealm.com/tao/index.html
>
>
> A manager asked his Oracle Master to assess the technical abilities of a
> potential new hire. The Master agreed and entered a small conference room
> with the manager and the applicant.
>
> Pleasantries aside, the Master began to question the young applicant:
>
> "Why would one wish to use Cost vs. Rule?"
>
> "How can performance be affected in a MTS environment?"
>
> "If a user complains that the database is slow? What is the first thing
that
> pops into your mind?"
>
> "If you were to write an adventure game, tell me how you would represent
the
> inventory system in memory?"
>
> The applicant appeared to think-through each question carefully and then
> replied with the answer they felt was appropriate.
>
> When the Master's questioning was complete, he smiled, said, "Thank you
for
> your time" and excused himself from the conference room.
>
> The manager raced through the door into the hallway and pulled the Master
> into a small closet. "Those were all the questions you were going to ask
> him? Were his answers correct?" he said with a tone of concern.
>
> "There are no correct or incorrect answers to the questions I asked",
> replied the Master, "he is one with the Tao of Oracle and will greatly
> benefit this company. Hire him."
>
> The manager scowled, "But you didn't ask him anything technical!? Why
didn't
> you ask him for names of V$ tables or some other memorization question?"
>
> The Master frowned. "First of all, they are V$ Views, not Tables", he
said,
> "Secondly, I am not concerned with this person's ability to mindlessly
> absorb information for the purposes of trivia and test-taking; I do not
care
> if this person has memorized the rules of playing chess. I want know that
> this person knows how to play chess."
>
> The Manager looked puzzled.
>
> The Master sighed, "If a person absorbs facts but cannot form simple
> rationalizations or theories based on the information, then this person
has
> learned nothing. If they have learned nothing, then they cannot act. If
they
> cannot act then they are worthless to your organization."
>
> The Manager then asked the master, "What about coding? He said that he
know
> C, Java, and PL/SQL. Why didn't you have him write some sample code blocks
> in each language or something?"
>
> The Master signed and shook his head, "You do not understand the ways of
the
> Tao. Only a fool would expect that a technical person would have an
in-depth
> knowledge of all things at all times..."
>
> The Master added, "Today our project is in PL/SQL, so I will write in
> PL/SQL. Tomorrow our project may be in Java, so I will write in Java.
During
> each transitional period where I shift from one language to another, it is
> foreseeable that these rules of syntax will become a temporary blur to me
> and I may put THENs on my IF statements. Does this make me an unskilled
> fool? Does this mean that I am worthless addition to your company? I think
> not."
>
> The Manager nodded in agreement, went back inside the conference room and
> immediately offered the applicant a job. Today, the applicant is a well
> respected mentor, responsible for saving the company millions of dollars
> each year.
>
> ***
>
> If one has read all of the computer books in the library, does it make
them
> a consultant?
> If one can recall the answers to memorization questions, does it make them
> skilled?
> If one has taken courses without asking a single question, does it make
them
> wise?
> If one can pass Oracle Certification Exams, does it make them an applied
> expert?
> Truly this is not the Tao of Oracle.
>
> If one has a core understanding of technology, they have a strong
> foundation.
> If one is disciplined in the ways of Computer Science, they have common
> sense.
> If one has programmed in a given language, they can easily adapt to
others.
> Truly this is the way of the Tao.
>
>
>
> "Justin John" <DontBotherwith_at_fake.ca> wrote in message
> news:GYG58.9772$DE3.1761608_at_news20.bellglobal.com...
> > Interesting opion I read from
> > http://www.dbasupport.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=20359
> > Maybe there are certain degrees of truth in it.
> >
> >
> > A friend of mine said to me most the sr. dbas are not certified, they
> hates
> > people certified and suggest I don't put certification on my cv.
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> --
> > ----
> >
> > I am a senior DBA and I am certified. I was in an OPS seminar recently
> where
> > there were senior DBAs from several Scandinavian countries, most were
> > certified. I have met non-certified senior DBAs, they are mostly people
> who
> > got into the business when there was no certification, they simply know
> how
> > to do the daily tasks, but they don't know all possibilities and methods
> > Oracle offers. If they want to become certified, they will have to learn
> all
> > the stuff. They might not want to do that because they might not need it
> in
> > and you see, there is always the chance that they fail the exam. Imagine
> > such a senior DBA coming to work after the exam, all the guys asking:
> Well,
> > how did it go?, and he say: Well, I did fail. How will that reflect on
his
> > reputation? An Oracle employee from a central European country told me
> once
> > that this fear of not passing the exam is the reason why some Oracle
> > employees do not attend the exams. You know, not everybody passes the
OCP
> > exams :-)
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
Received on Wed Jan 30 2002 - 13:05:57 CST