For a definition that is close to what I mean
http://searchwin2000.techtarget.com/sDefinition/0,,sid1_gci211623,00.html
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Niall Litchfield
Oracle DBA
Audit Commission UK
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<SUSOTT_at_amnutrition.com> wrote in message
news:u3mdrieq7httb6_at_corp.supernews.com...
> "automagically" With magic?
>
> "Niall Litchfield" <n-litchfield_at_audit-commission.gov.uk> wrote in message
> news:3c39c25c$0$231$ed9e5944_at_reading.news.pipex.net...
> > Hey no worries mate I know exactly where you are coming from. I think
> though
> > that Cary and his co-workers would agree with you. To take the preamble
> from
> > one of their free products
> >
> > "The ability to diagnose and repair Oracle system performance problems
is
> > critically important to a business. Yet Oracle system performance
analysis
> > is notoriously difficult. Send a performance problem description to a
news
> > group, and you'll get five different recommendations about what to do.
If
> > you want eight more different recommendations, engage two "performance
> > expert" consultants, buy two books, call Oracle and your disk vendor,
and
> > enroll in two performance tuning courses. Most Oracle system performance
> > optimization "methods" today aren't really methods at all; they're
> > guidelines that leave much to the experience and intuition of the
> > practitioner.
> > Good Oracle system performance analysis is a science, not an art."
> >
> > Of course NO product is a substitute for the skills and experience of a
> DBA
> > and frankly companies that think that complex software can be configured
> > optimally automagically (preferably with lots of pretty graphs) deserve
> all
> > they get. That doesn't mean that there isn't a market for good tools
that
> > can help Oracle Professionals do their jobs better.
> >
> > anyway happy new year and I hope you're not smoked out yet.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Niall Litchfield
> > Oracle DBA
> > Audit Commission UK
> > *****************************************
> > Please include version and platform
> > and SQL where applicable
> > It makes life easier and increases the
> > likelihood of a good answer
> >
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> >
> > "Nuno Souto" <nsouto_at_optushome.com.au.nospam> wrote in message
> > news:3c399484.2395050_at_news-vip.optusnet.com.au...
> > > Niall Litchfield doodled thusly:
> > >
> > > >I don't think that is entirely fair in this case. Certainly a large
> part
> > of
> > > >their market will be the people who won't pay for an on-site DBA.
> However
> > > >they do clearly outline sensible and methodical management and
> > > >administration techniques. As to wether it is revolutionary that
rather
> > > >depends upon how methodical your existing DBA is.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Niall, I wish I had a dollar for every tool that has cropped up over
> > > the years claiming to auto tune every ORACLE instance out there. I'd
> > > be rich now...
> > > And I wish I had another dollar for the number of these tools that
> > > haven't produced the results claimed in their marketing. I'd be
> > > doubly rich.
> > >
> > > Still remember the wild claims about Patrol nearly ten years ago.
> > > Never substantiated. And a heap of others.
> > >
> > > Still, good luck to them.
> > >
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > > Nuno Souto
> > > nsouto_at_optushome.com.au.nospam
> >
> >
>
>
Received on Wed Jan 09 2002 - 02:51:08 CST
