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In article <Afn_7.7391$6q2.1873936_at_news2-win.server.ntlworld.com>, "Keith
says...
>
>I missed the reference to an index being present.
>
I don't think there was one -- I made that up. I just wanted to show that SIZABLE redo could be generated by such a simple example, much much more then 8k.
Even without the index however (just to be fair), the results are:
redo size = 16,868 1,000 rows in a statement.PL/SQL procedure successfully completed.
redo size = 245,152 1,000 rows, one at a time.PL/SQL procedure successfully completed.
redo size = 599,756 1,000 rows with a commit after eachPL/SQL procedure successfully completed.
>"Thomas Kyte" <tkyte_at_us.oracle.com> wrote in message
>news:a1ccj902cs_at_drn.newsguy.com...
>> In article <Pfb_7.5309$wd1.655718_at_news11-gui.server.ntli.net>, "Keith
>says...
>> >
>> >Could it not be the acquisition of a new initialised block / acquisition
>of
>> >transaction entry in the block etc.?
>>
>> doubt it.
>>
>> >
>> >The values being inserted are three zeroes, which at about 2 bytes each
>plus
>> >a 1 byte row header, plus a little block overhead would workout at around
>> >1000 rows per 8k block. If you could fit just a little more than this in
>the
>> >block, and block acquisition was significant, you might get the behaviour
>> >observed.
>> >
>> >I don't think the redo logs would be as small as 8K!
>>
>> three columns, one index (and not knowing about anything else) and the
>redo
>> would be 64k or so for a SINGLE insert with 1,000 rows, it will be 1/2meg
>if you
>> insert 1000 rows INDIVIDUALLY and closer to 1meg if you insert 1000 rows
>and
>> commit each one -- you never know. I've seen worse...
>>
>>
>> ops$tkyte_at_ORA817DEV.US.ORACLE.COM> create table t ( x int, y int, z int );
>>
>> Table created.
>>
>> ops$tkyte_at_ORA817DEV.US.ORACLE.COM> create index t_idx on t(x);
>>
>> Index created.
>>
>> ops$tkyte_at_ORA817DEV.US.ORACLE.COM>
>> ops$tkyte_at_ORA817DEV.US.ORACLE.COM>
>> ops$tkyte_at_ORA817DEV.US.ORACLE.COM> set serveroutput on
>> ops$tkyte_at_ORA817DEV.US.ORACLE.COM> declare
>> 2 begin_value number;
>> 3 end_value number;
>> 4 begin
>> 5 select b.value into begin_value
>> 6 from v$statname a, v$mystat b
>> 7 where a.statistic# = b.statistic#
>> 8 and a.name = 'redo size'
>> 9 and b.value > 0;
>> 10
>> 11 insert into t select '0', '0', '0' from all_objects where rownum <=
>1000;
>> 12
>> 13 select b.value-begin_value into end_value
>> 14 from v$statname a, v$mystat b
>> 15 where a.statistic# = b.statistic#
>> 16 and a.name = 'redo size'
>> 17 and b.value > 0;
>> 18
>> 19 dbms_output.put_line( 'redo size = ' ||
>> to_char(end_value,'999,999,999') );
>> 20 end;
>> 21 /
>> redo size = 60,488
>>
>> PL/SQL procedure successfully completed.
>>
>> ops$tkyte_at_ORA817DEV.US.ORACLE.COM>
>> ops$tkyte_at_ORA817DEV.US.ORACLE.COM>
>> ops$tkyte_at_ORA817DEV.US.ORACLE.COM>
>> ops$tkyte_at_ORA817DEV.US.ORACLE.COM> declare
>> 2 begin_value number;
>> 3 end_value number;
>> 4 begin
>> 5 select b.value into begin_value
>> 6 from v$statname a, v$mystat b
>> 7 where a.statistic# = b.statistic#
>> 8 and a.name = 'redo size'
>> 9 and b.value > 0;
>> 10
>> 11 for i in 1 .. 1000
>> 12 loop
>> 13 insert into t values ( '0', '0', '0' );
>> 14 end loop;
>> 15
>> 16
>> 17 select b.value-begin_value into end_value
>> 18 from v$statname a, v$mystat b
>> 19 where a.statistic# = b.statistic#
>> 20 and a.name = 'redo size'
>> 21 and b.value > 0;
>> 22
>> 23 dbms_output.put_line( 'redo size = ' ||
>> to_char(end_value,'999,999,999') );
>> 24 end;
>> 25 /
>> redo size = 489,696
>>
>> PL/SQL procedure successfully completed.
>>
>> ops$tkyte_at_ORA817DEV.US.ORACLE.COM>
>> ops$tkyte_at_ORA817DEV.US.ORACLE.COM> declare
>> 2 begin_value number;
>> 3 end_value number;
>> 4 begin
>> 5 select b.value into begin_value
>> 6 from v$statname a, v$mystat b
>> 7 where a.statistic# = b.statistic#
>> 8 and a.name = 'redo size'
>> 9 and b.value > 0;
>> 10
>> 11 for i in 1 .. 1000
>> 12 loop
>> 13 insert into t values ( '0', '0', '0' );
>> 14 commit;
>> 15 end loop;
>> 16
>> 17
>> 18 select b.value-begin_value into end_value
>> 19 from v$statname a, v$mystat b
>> 20 where a.statistic# = b.statistic#
>> 21 and a.name = 'redo size'
>> 22 and b.value > 0;
>> 23
>> 24 dbms_output.put_line( 'redo size = ' ||
>> to_char(end_value,'999,999,999') );
>> 25 end;
>> 26 /
>> redo size = 893,744
>>
>> PL/SQL procedure successfully completed.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>> >"Thomas Kyte" <tkyte_at_us.oracle.com> wrote in message
>> >news:a1a3ha01mhm_at_drn.newsguy.com...
>> >> In article <a19ov5$p3sst$1_at_ID-54600.news.dfncis.de>, "Steffen says...
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >"Thomas Kyte" <tkyte_at_us.oracle.com> wrote in message
>> >> >news:a17h6c02fqq_at_drn.newsguy.com...
>> >> >> In article <a17bh5$m5jr8$1_at_ID-54600.news.dfncis.de>, "Steffen
>says...
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >i execute a stmt 1000 times in 10 loops against a oracle 8.0.5, but
>> >the
>> >> >> >execution time fluctuates dramatic
>> >> >> >i have no clue why
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> are you working in a dust free lab with your own network, no other
>> >users?
>> >> >
>> >> >yap
>> >> >
>> >> >> Is the database a single user database?
>> >> >
>> >> >yap
>> >> >
>> >> >> is the server a single user server?
>> >> >
>> >> >yap
>> >> >
>> >> >> is the network free from all other traffic?
>> >> >
>> >> >yap
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >> If not, everything will flucuate.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Although, based on the pattern I see below (fast, slow, fast, slow,
>> >fast,
>> >> >slow
>> >> >> or fast, fast, slow, fast, fast, slow and so on) -- it could very
>well
>> >be
>> >> >that
>> >> >> your redo logs are undersized, your alert log is full of "cannot
>> >allocate
>> >> >new
>> >> >> log" and you are seeing the system pause while a checkpoint or
>archival
>> >> >> completes.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Review your alert log. Use things like STATSPACK and
>TKPROF/SQL_TRACE
>> >to
>> >> >> diagnose performance releated issues.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >i'll check this out, but.. if it would be the redo log shouldn't it be
>> >same
>> >> >same for all tests, because redos depend on the amount of inserted
>rows
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> It does apppear to be the same for all tests.
>> >>
>> >> fast, slow, fast, slow, fast, slow = 1000 rows inserted.
>> >>
>> >> fast, fast, slow, fast, fast, slow, fast, fast, slow = 333 rows
>inserted.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> slow, slow, slow, slow, slow = not using prepared statements so you
>burnt
>> >so
>> >> many CPU cycles parsing, the IO didn't count anymore (it had a chance
>to
>> >catch
>> >> up all on its own).
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Looks like you fit maybe about 1,000 rows into the redo logs before
>> >wrapping and
>> >> then wait for a checkpoint to complete. Looks fairly consistent.
>> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >i thought:
>> >> >> >allocating extends takes times - no it seems to be another thing,
>coz
>> >it
>> >> >> >does depends on the number of rows how offen the exec. time
>fluctuates
>> >> >> >lazy writer?
>> >> >> >other?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >damned!!! plz help :-)
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Oracle JDBC driver
>> >> >> >batchsupport: true
>> >> >> >1) 1000 unprepared stmts: insert into BatchTest (c1, c2, c3) values
>> >> >> >('0','0',0) : 4997 ms
>> >> >> >1) 1000 unprepared stmts: insert into BatchTest (c1, c2, c3) values
>> >> >> >('0','0',0) : 6449 ms
>> >> >> >1) 1000 unprepared stmts: insert into BatchTest (c1, c2, c3) values
>> >> >> >('0','0',0) : 4106 ms
>> >> >> >1) 1000 unprepared stmts: insert into BatchTest (c1, c2, c3) values
>> >> >> >('0','0',0) : 6249 ms
>> >> >> >1) 1000 unprepared stmts: insert into BatchTest (c1, c2, c3) values
>> >> >> >('0','0',0) : 4106 ms
>> >> >> >1) 1000 unprepared stmts: insert into BatchTest (c1, c2, c3) values
>> >> >> >('0','0',0) : 6319 ms
>> >> >> >1) 1000 unprepared stmts: insert into BatchTest (c1, c2, c3) values
>> >> >> >('0','0',0) : 4206 ms
>> >> >> >1) 1000 unprepared stmts: insert into BatchTest (c1, c2, c3) values
>> >> >> >('0','0',0) : 6800 ms
>> >> >> >1) 1000 unprepared stmts: insert into BatchTest (c1, c2, c3) values
>> >> >> >('0','0',0) : 4427 ms
>> >> >> >1) 1000 unprepared stmts: insert into BatchTest (c1, c2, c3) values
>> >> >> >('0','0',0) : 6589 ms
>> >> >> >2) single unprepared jdbc batch with 1000 stmts: insert into
>BatchTest
>> >> >(c1,
>> >> >> >c2, c3) values ('0','0',0) : 4476 ms
>> >> >> >2) single unprepared jdbc batch with 1000 stmts: insert into
>BatchTest
>> >> >(c1,
>> >> >> >c2, c3) values ('0','0',0) : 6630 ms
>> >> >> >2) single unprepared jdbc batch with 1000 stmts: insert into
>BatchTest
>> >> >(c1,
>> >> >> >c2, c3) values ('0','0',0) : 4497 ms
>> >> >> >2) single unprepared jdbc batch with 1000 stmts: insert into
>BatchTest
>> >> >(c1,
>> >> >> >c2, c3) values ('0','0',0) : 6970 ms
>> >> >> >2) single unprepared jdbc batch with 1000 stmts: insert into
>BatchTest
>> >> >(c1,
>> >> >> >c2, c3) values ('0','0',0) : 4527 ms
>> >> >> >2) single unprepared jdbc batch with 1000 stmts: insert into
>BatchTest
>> >> >(c1,
>> >> >> >c2, c3) values ('0','0',0) : 6920 ms
>> >> >> >2) single unprepared jdbc batch with 1000 stmts: insert into
>BatchTest
>> >> >(c1,
>> >> >> >c2, c3) values ('0','0',0) : 4587 ms
>> >> >> >2) single unprepared jdbc batch with 1000 stmts: insert into
>BatchTest
>> >> >(c1,
>> >> >> >c2, c3) values ('0','0',0) : 6669 ms
>> >> >> >2) single unprepared jdbc batch with 1000 stmts: insert into
>BatchTest
>> >> >(c1,
>> >> >> >c2, c3) values ('0','0',0) : 4616 ms
>> >> >> >2) single unprepared jdbc batch with 1000 stmts: insert into
>BatchTest
>> >> >(c1,
>> >> >> >c2, c3) values ('0','0',0) : 7571 ms
>> >> >> >4) 1000 prepared stmts: insert into BatchTest (c1, c2, c3) values
>(?,
>> >?,
>> >> >?):
>> >> >> >2794 ms
>> >> >> >4) 1000 prepared stmts: insert into BatchTest (c1, c2, c3) values
>(?,
>> >?,
>> >> >?):
>> >> >> >5468 ms
>> >> >> >4) 1000 prepared stmts: insert into BatchTest (c1, c2, c3) values
>(?,
>> >?,
>> >> >?):
>> >> >> >2654 ms
>> >> >> >4) 1000 prepared stmts: insert into BatchTest (c1, c2, c3) values
>(?,
>> >?,
>> >> >?):
>> >> >> >4787 ms
>> >> >> >4) 1000 prepared stmts: insert into BatchTest (c1, c2, c3) values
>(?,
>> >?,
>> >> >?):
>> >> >> >2634 ms
>> >> >> >4) 1000 prepared stmts: insert into BatchTest (c1, c2, c3) values
>(?,
>> >?,
>> >> >?):
>> >> >> >4907 ms
>> >> >> >4) 1000 prepared stmts: insert into BatchTest (c1, c2, c3) values
>(?,
>> >?,
>> >> >?):
>> >> >> >2664 ms
>> >> >> >4) 1000 prepared stmts: insert into BatchTest (c1, c2, c3) values
>(?,
>> >?,
>> >> >?):
>> >> >> >4907 ms
>> >> >> >4) 1000 prepared stmts: insert into BatchTest (c1, c2, c3) values
>(?,
>> >?,
>> >> >?):
>> >> >> >2654 ms
>> >> >> >4) 1000 prepared stmts: insert into BatchTest (c1, c2, c3) values
>(?,
>> >?,
>> >> >?):
>> >> >> >5007 ms
>> >> >> >5) 333 prepared stored proc calls: { call BT1 (?,?,?) }: 1632 ms
>> >> >> >5) 333 prepared stored proc calls: { call BT1 (?,?,?) }: 1633 ms
>> >> >> >5) 333 prepared stored proc calls: { call BT1 (?,?,?) }: 3936 ms
>> >> >> >5) 333 prepared stored proc calls: { call BT1 (?,?,?) }: 1592 ms
>> >> >> >5) 333 prepared stored proc calls: { call BT1 (?,?,?) }: 1593 ms
>> >> >> >5) 333 prepared stored proc calls: { call BT1 (?,?,?) }: 3915 ms
>> >> >> >5) 333 prepared stored proc calls: { call BT1 (?,?,?) }: 1582 ms
>> >> >> >5) 333 prepared stored proc calls: { call BT1 (?,?,?) }: 1813 ms
>> >> >> >5) 333 prepared stored proc calls: { call BT1 (?,?,?) }: 2764 ms
>> >> >> >5) 333 prepared stored proc calls: { call BT1 (?,?,?) }: 1602 ms
>> >> >> >7) single prepared jdbc batch with 1000 stmts: insert into
>BatchTest
>> >(c1,
>> >> >> >c2, c3) values (?, ?, ?): 110 ms
>> >> >> >7) single prepared jdbc batch with 1000 stmts: insert into
>BatchTest
>> >(c1,
>> >> >> >c2, c3) values (?, ?, ?): 90 ms
>> >> >> >7) single prepared jdbc batch with 1000 stmts: insert into
>BatchTest
>> >(c1,
>> >> >> >c2, c3) values (?, ?, ?): 180 ms
>> >> >> >7) single prepared jdbc batch with 1000 stmts: insert into
>BatchTest
>> >(c1,
>> >> >> >c2, c3) values (?, ?, ?): 80 ms
>> >> >> >7) single prepared jdbc batch with 1000 stmts: insert into
>BatchTest
>> >(c1,
>> >> >> >c2, c3) values (?, ?, ?): 90 ms
>> >> >> >7) single prepared jdbc batch with 1000 stmts: insert into
>BatchTest
>> >(c1,
>> >> >> >c2, c3) values (?, ?, ?): 90 ms
>> >> >> >7) single prepared jdbc batch with 1000 stmts: insert into
>BatchTest
>> >(c1,
>> >> >> >c2, c3) values (?, ?, ?): 90 ms
>> >> >> >7) single prepared jdbc batch with 1000 stmts: insert into
>BatchTest
>> >(c1,
>> >> >> >c2, c3) values (?, ?, ?): 90 ms
>> >> >> >7) single prepared jdbc batch with 1000 stmts: insert into
>BatchTest
>> >(c1,
>> >> >> >c2, c3) values (?, ?, ?): 331 ms
>> >> >> >7) single prepared jdbc batch with 1000 stmts: insert into
>BatchTest
>> >(c1,
>> >> >> >c2, c3) values (?, ?, ?): 140 ms
>> >> >> >8) single prepared jdbc batch with 333 stored proc calls: { call
>BT1
>> >> >> >(?,?,?) }: 1862 ms
>> >> >> >8) single prepared jdbc batch with 333 stored proc calls: { call
>BT1
>> >> >> >(?,?,?) }: 1642 ms
>> >> >> >8) single prepared jdbc batch with 333 stored proc calls: { call
>BT1
>> >> >> >(?,?,?) }: 4106 ms
>> >> >> >8) single prepared jdbc batch with 333 stored proc calls: { call
>BT1
>> >> >> >(?,?,?) }: 1643 ms
>> >> >> >8) single prepared jdbc batch with 333 stored proc calls: { call
>BT1
>> >> >> >(?,?,?) }: 1652 ms
>> >> >> >8) single prepared jdbc batch with 333 stored proc calls: { call
>BT1
>> >> >> >(?,?,?) }: 3915 ms
>> >> >> >8) single prepared jdbc batch with 333 stored proc calls: { call
>BT1
>> >> >> >(?,?,?) }: 1903 ms
>> >> >> >8) single prepared jdbc batch with 333 stored proc calls: { call
>BT1
>> >> >> >(?,?,?) }: 1703 ms
>> >> >> >8) single prepared jdbc batch with 333 stored proc calls: { call
>BT1
>> >> >> >(?,?,?) }: 4176 ms
>> >> >> >8) single prepared jdbc batch with 333 stored proc calls: { call
>BT1
>> >> >> >(?,?,?) }: 1693 ms
>> >> >> >6) single unprepared sql batch with 333 stored proc calls:
>> >> >BT1('0','0',0); :
>> >> >> >921 ms
>> >> >> >6) single unprepared sql batch with 333 stored proc calls:
>> >> >BT1('0','0',0); :
>> >> >> >330 ms
>> >> >> >6) single unprepared sql batch with 333 stored proc calls:
>> >> >BT1('0','0',0); :
>> >> >> >781 ms
>> >> >> >6) single unprepared sql batch with 333 stored proc calls:
>> >> >BT1('0','0',0); :
>> >> >> >620 ms
>> >> >> >6) single unprepared sql batch with 333 stored proc calls:
>> >> >BT1('0','0',0); :
>> >> >> >340 ms
>> >> >> >6) single unprepared sql batch with 333 stored proc calls:
>> >> >BT1('0','0',0); :
>> >> >> >340 ms
>> >> >> >6) single unprepared sql batch with 333 stored proc calls:
>> >> >BT1('0','0',0); :
>> >> >> >952 ms
>> >> >> >6) single unprepared sql batch with 333 stored proc calls:
>> >> >BT1('0','0',0); :
>> >> >> >491 ms
>> >> >> >6) single unprepared sql batch with 333 stored proc calls:
>> >> >BT1('0','0',0); :
>> >> >> >330 ms
>> >> >> >6) single unprepared sql batch with 333 stored proc calls:
>> >> >BT1('0','0',0); :
>> >> >> >331 ms
>> >> >> >3) single unprepared sql batch with 1000 stmts: insert into
>BatchTest
>> >> >(c1,
>> >> >> >c2, c3) values ('0','0',0); : 4677 ms
>> >> >> >3) single unprepared sql batch with 1000 stmts: insert into
>BatchTest
>> >> >(c1,
>> >> >> >c2, c3) values ('0','0',0); : 4426 ms
>> >> >> >3) single unprepared sql batch with 1000 stmts: insert into
>BatchTest
>> >> >(c1,
>> >> >> >c2, c3) values ('0','0',0); : 4396 ms
>> >> >> >3) single unprepared sql batch with 1000 stmts: insert into
>BatchTest
>> >> >(c1,
>> >> >> >c2, c3) values ('0','0',0); : 4377 ms
>> >> >> >3) single unprepared sql batch with 1000 stmts: insert into
>BatchTest
>> >> >(c1,
>> >> >> >c2, c3) values ('0','0',0); : 4436 ms
>> >> >> >3) single unprepared sql batch with 1000 stmts: insert into
>BatchTest
>> >> >(c1,
>> >> >> >c2, c3) values ('0','0',0); : 4707 ms
>> >> >> >3) single unprepared sql batch with 1000 stmts: insert into
>BatchTest
>> >> >(c1,
>> >> >> >c2, c3) values ('0','0',0); : 4366 ms
>> >> >> >3) single unprepared sql batch with 1000 stmts: insert into
>BatchTest
>> >> >(c1,
>> >> >> >c2, c3) values ('0','0',0); : 4427 ms
>> >> >> >3) single unprepared sql batch with 1000 stmts: insert into
>BatchTest
>> >> >(c1,
>> >> >> >c2, c3) values ('0','0',0); : 4426 ms
>> >> >> >3) single unprepared sql batch with 1000 stmts: insert into
>BatchTest
>> >> >(c1,
>> >> >> >c2, c3) values ('0','0',0); : 4747 ms
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Thomas Kyte (tkyte_at_us.oracle.com)
>http://asktom.oracle.com/
>> >> >> Expert one on one Oracle, programming techniques and solutions for
>> >Oracle.
>> >> >> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1861004826/
>> >> >> Opinions are mine and do not necessarily reflect those of Oracle
>Corp
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Thomas Kyte (tkyte@us.oracle.com) http://asktom.oracle.com/
>> >> Expert one on one Oracle, programming techniques and solutions for
>Oracle.
>> >> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1861004826/
>> >> Opinions are mine and do not necessarily reflect those of Oracle Corp
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>> --
>> Thomas Kyte (tkyte@us.oracle.com) http://asktom.oracle.com/
>> Expert one on one Oracle, programming techniques and solutions for Oracle.
>> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1861004826/
>> Opinions are mine and do not necessarily reflect those of Oracle Corp
>>
>
>
-- Thomas Kyte (tkyte@us.oracle.com) http://asktom.oracle.com/ Expert one on one Oracle, programming techniques and solutions for Oracle. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1861004826/ Opinions are mine and do not necessarily reflect those of Oracle CorpReceived on Mon Jan 07 2002 - 18:30:23 CST
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