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Re: Oracle Names: better with/without Region DB??

From: balaski <m.balaski_at_snet.net>
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 21:18:27 -0400
Message-ID: <F3Ia7.2697$TI6.1447837@typhoon.snet.net>

Hi Vincent,
I would forget about using oracle name -- it's terminal release is Oracle 9! "Oracle9i is the terminal release of Oracle Names. LDAP Directory Naming is the direction for Oracle
 databases network management and configuration."

Taken from:
Note:123179.1
Subject: NDA External Naming, SPX/IPX Protocol, Net8 Open & Oracle Names Advisory Notice
Oracle Support Services
 Product Obsolescence Advisory

 October 2000
 Product: NDS External Naming, SPX/IPX Protocol, Net8 Open and Oracle Names
 Platform: All Platforms
 Advisory Announcement:
 Oracle Corporation announces the end of error correction for NDS External  Naming, SPX/IPX Protocol and Net8 Open on all platforms, upon the effective  obsolescence of Oracle8i, v8.1.7. Oracle8i v8.1.7 will be the terminal  release for these features.

 Oracle Corporation announces the end of error correction for Oracle Names  on all platforms. The desupport date of Oracle Names is dependent on the  schedule of Oracle9i. Oracle9i (v8.2) will be the terminal release of  Oracle Names.


The following is from the Oracle LDAP Faq: NET 8 - LDAP FAQ


 FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS



 15-FEB-2001  Introduction :

 Oracle9i is the terminal release of Oracle Names.  LDAP Directory Naming is the direction for Oracle  databases network management and configuration.

 References : [NOTE:74621.1] Product Desupport Matrix

 CONTENTS


  1. How does Net8 relate to LDAP ?
  2. What is directory naming ?
  3. How can an existing client use Net8 directory naming if an LDAP directory has already been deployed?
  4. Can directory naming be employed along with other naming methods such as Oracle Names?
  5. Which LDAP directories does Oracle certify for Net8 directory naming ?
  6. How can migration from Oracle Names be handled ?
  7. How can migration from a TNSNAMES.ora file be handled ?
  8. Can I migrate aliases for Net8 services in the directory ?
  9. How does OID handle failover for Net8 clients ?
  10. Can I cache service names in the LDAP server's memory if the repository database goes down ?
  11. Can SQLNET V2 clients resolve service names through LDAP ?
  12. What is the LDAP Proxy server ?
  13. Do I need to license OID when deploying the directory for NET8 ?

 QUESTIONS & ANSWERS


  1. How does Net8 relate to LDAP ?

 Answer



 Net8 supports a centralized, LDAP-compliant enterprise directory-service  solution for management of network resources. The support for directory  services such as the Oracle Internet Directory provides a centralized vehicle
 for managing and configuring a distributed, heterogeneous network.  The network directory will become the central repository for all data on  databases, network components, and user and corporate policies and preferences,
 replacing client-side and server-side localized files. Administrators can  centrally manage these objects and all systems on the heterogeneous network  can refer to the directory for information.

 2. What is directory naming ?

 Answer



 Directory naming is the process of resolving an alias using an LDAP-compliant
 directory service. For LDAP naming to happen, an LDAP compliant directory  service must be available in the network and the client machine must be  configured to use the directory service.

 3. How can an existing client use Net8 directory naming if an LDAP directory

    has already been deployed?

 Answer



 In order to use Net8 directory naming, customer must have Net8 supportive  directory services available, such as Oracle Internet Directory (OID) or  Microsoft Active Directory (AD)services.  Net8 clients that want to use an LDAP directory must configure their machines
 for LDAP usage. This can be done by using the Net8 Configuration Assistant.  Similarly, Oracle server machines that want to use an LDAP directory must  configure their machines for LDAP usage. This can be done by using the Net8  Configuration Assistant.

 References : Net8 Administrator's Guide

 4. Can directory naming be employed along with other naming methods for example

    Oracle Names?

 Answer



 Directory naming can certainly be employed along with existing local, host,  external and Oracle Names methods. A client can choose to employ any combination
 of these naming methods to resolve service names.  LDAP is the recommended migration path from Oracle Names which will be  desupported.

 References : [NOTE:74621.1] Product Desupport Matrix

 5. Which LDAP directories does Oracle certify for Net8 directory naming ?

 Answer



 Until 8.1.7.0.0 :
 -> Oracle Internet Directory
 -> Active Directory
 -> Netware Directory Services

 Until further notice 9i only supports :  -> Oracle Internet Directory
 -> Active Directory

 References : [NOTE:74621.1] Product Desupport Matrix

 6. How can I export data from Oracle Names to LDAP ?

 Answer



 Database services and net service names stored in an Oracle Names server can be
 exported to a directory server or to an LDAP Data Interchange Format (LDIF) file.
 Data is exported from a specified domain. If the domain has authority for  subdomains, then the data from the delegated domains can also be exported.  Oracle Names provides a command line utility "DUMP_LDAP" for this purpose.

 References : Net8 Administrator's Guide  Note:120723.1 Net*8 LDAP Naming: Adding TNS Service Names from Oracle Names

 7. How can migration from a TNSNAMES.ora file be handled ?

 Answer



 Oracle provides a migration wizard in Net8 Assistant. The migration wizard  provides an one-time migration of all or a subset of names from all or a subset
 of domains detected in the TNSNAMES.ORA file.

 References : Net8 Administrator's Guide  Note:120717.1 Net*8 LDAP Naming: Adding TNS Service Names to an OID

 8. Can I migrate aliases for Net8 services in the directory ?

 Answer



 An alias is a pointer to another entry in the DIT.  The ONAMES-LDAP migration functionality was intended to work for  all LDAPs, and LDAP version 2 was current when this tool was built.  LDAP version 2 did not provide a standard convention for object  alias data types so the alias migration was not included.

 9. How does OID handle failover for Net8 clients ?

 Answer



 The typical way to deal with high availability in a customer environment is  to deploy two or more LDAP servers and have failover between them.  Net8 allows you to identify multiple LDAP servers on the client side in the  ldap.ora file. If one isn't responding, the client automatically tries another
 server.
  1. Can I cache service names in the LDAP server's memory if the repository database goes down ?

 Answer



 For the moment this is not possible but is planned for a future release. You can
 enable caching on the client side (NT service caching) which should prevent the
 client having to go to the ldap server.
  1. Which SQLNET clients are able to resolve service names through LDAP ?

 Answer



 Starting from Oracle8i release 2 (or 8.1.6), Net8 supports Lightweight  Directory Access Protocol (LDAP) compliant directory naming.  Pre-Oracle8i clients can continue to use existing mechanisms  such as Oracle Names or TNSNAMES.
  1. What is the LDAP Proxy server ?

 Answer



 The Oracle Names LDAP Proxy server allows a smooth migration from ONAMES to LDAP.
 It is configured upon Oracle Names version 9i and is uses as a proxy to the  directory. When it starts up the proxy obtains all the network information from
 the directory server. This avoids maintaining data in the Names Server and the
 directory simutaneously.
  1. Do I need to license OID when deploying the directory for NET8 ?

 Answer



 No, deploying OID for NET8 is free of charge.

So -- It is free if you use it for NET8 (ONames /Tnsnames Replacement)

Plus you can avoid the problems associated with Regional Settings...

dB

"Vincent Ventrone" <vav_at_brandeis.edu> wrote in message news:9kbpte$sl3$1_at_new-news.cc.brandeis.edu... > We have been running an Oracle Names server (version 8.1.6) for some  months

> now *without* a Region DB & using the Dynamic Discovery Option for (8i)
> database services to register with it.  It works pretty well.  However, we
> have had some problems w/ it (for ex., getting the Names Server to
 "forget"
> obsolete service entries.)  Oracle's usual response to my TARs on these
> issues has been to set up the server to use a Region DB, which I am now in
> process of doing.
>
> Question:  does anyone have any experience with a Names Server with &
> without a Region DB they could share?  I'm asking because so far I have
> found things I do not like about the "with DB" configuration -- and I
 really
> the DDO feature that we are currently using.
>
> Thanks
>
> --
> Vincent Ventrone
> DBA
> Information Technology Services
> Brandeis University
> MS 017
> Waltham, MA 02454
> vav_at_brandeis.edu
> 781 736-4517
>
>
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