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Re: should initial = next?

From: John Morrison <jdmorri_at_yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 00:51:48 +1100
Message-ID: <kbwi6.217$v4.12754@ozemail.com.au>

Where do I find Steve Adams website?
If you could post/email a URL please...
"Nuno Souto" <nsouto_at_nsw.bigpond.net.au.nospam> wrote in message news:3a8252c0.2155050_at_news-server...
> On Thu, 8 Feb 2001 06:35:27 +1100, "Howard J. Rogers"
> <howardjr_at_www.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >I'm obviously making the point too subtly! I *have* actually hacked
 around
> >in sql.bsq, and you're right: It's not that hard. But have you read
 most
> >of the posts on this newsgroup? Are you honestly suggesting we recommend
> >open slather on that file??
>
> Hmm, soapbox mode on:
>
> Interesting. If you allow me a side-track: many years ago, in the
> Compuserve ORACLE forums (fora?), I published how to export by
> tablespace. At the time this was a big issue in everyone's mind.
> Chris Wooldridge actually acknowledged mine was a viable way of doing
> it, without too much risk. Yet I got tons of private e-mail at the
> time, warning me that I was divulging "dangerous techniques" to an
> "unknowing public", yadda yadda. And the whole thing was snuffled. A
> few months later, a commercial product came out employing a very
> similar technique.... Anything else I say would be too obvious.
>
> But coming back to this. I'm fully aware that it should not be
> attempted by the "common run-of-the-mill part-time SQL Server DBA
> dabbling in ORACLE as a side activity". Serves him/her right if they
> get into trouble for playing with this. I'd dare say they'd get into
> trouble regardless. I even suggest they'd would be in trouble to even
> *understand* what the heck are we talking about. After
> all, it's not in any of the "multimedia-rich" screens they so love.
> And we all know plain text reading (outside of a 3D-box) is not their
> strongest point...
>
> For the more common mortal dba, this would be an interesting
> side-line, to be tried/researched/investigated at some later stage or
> even discussed with the "gurus" at the next OUG meeting. Ie, bugger
> all importance with no serious consequences. They just backup daily,
> defrag weekly, get the money at the end of the month and live and let
> live.
>
> For the true afficionado, this wouldn't be news. But it would be a
> nice incentive for further experimentation. After careful research
> and discussion, of course. If they didn't do so, they'd stop being
> afficionados very soon, or someone would stop them.
>
> For the "Steve Adams" class, it would be "ho-hum". And even though I
> consider myself a bit "adventurous" when it comes to dba work, I must
> admit some of the stuff publicly available in his site makes the hair
> at the back of my neck stand up. I know the fella knows his stuff and
> I trust him, I just don't trust me!
>
> But I know enough to stop when I hit my limits, unless I'm just
> dabbling or playing around in non-critical databases. IOW, done
> sensibly by a sensible person, nothing wrong with it.
>
> All this to say I don't see a problem about talking this sort of stuff
> in this NG. Dunno what others think, but I'm open as usual.
>
> Ooops, I just fell off the soapbox...
>
> >Now I know that what Oracle *does* recommend is frequently mystifying in
 its
> >lunacy, but ...
> >
>
> ROFL!
>
> Cheers
> Nuno Souto
> nsouto_at_bigpond.net.au.nospam
> http://www.users.bigpond.net.au/the_Den/index.html
Received on Wed Feb 14 2001 - 07:51:48 CST

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