Re: Differences between Oracle RDBMS and MS SQL Server

Mike Krolewski <mkrolewski_at_rosetta.org> wrote in message news:90n9jn$ndb$1_at_nnrp1.deja.com...
> In article <90mmg3$8h8$1_at_nnrp1.deja.com>,
> Mike Krolewski <mkrolewski_at_rosetta.org> wrote:
> > In article <90mf5e$22r$1_at_nnrp1.deja.com>,
> > lindawie_at_my-deja.com wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Slick technical features are nice, but in the end they will not sway
 an
> > > informed management. Executives will base their purchase decisions
 on
> > > things like how much of the budget will this consume, how can they
> > > justify paying developers and DBAs twice as much as nontechnical
> > > people, or is it more cost-effective to just go to an application
> > > service provider.
> > >
> > > Linda
> > >
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> > > Before you buy.
> > >
> >
> > Are you suggesting that it is cost is the only factor? Why not stick
 to
> > paper and pencil? Are you suggesting that developers and DBAs are not
> > productive and should be replaced by a 3rd party group ( of developers
> > and DBAs )?
> >
> > I have worked for companies that took Johnny who wanted to write code
> > to develop the corporate database. And when it was small and did
> > something your PDA did, things worked well. And the (pick you favorite
> > RDBMS here) was cheap. Then the project was scaled up and features
 were
> > added, and things stopped working. Not necessarily due to (pick you
> > favorite RDBMS here) but to Johnny's design or lack of it. It took
> > months to undo the damage.
> >
> > IMHO one of Oracles major advantages is the developer/DBAs have to
 have
> > some skill before they are hired. It slows down the "you start
> > developing it while I get the specifications from the user" mode of
> > development.
> >
> > Similarly, it is hard to justify changing to or adding
 Oracle/SqlServer
> > if all that you think you are doing is moving the old system to
> > Oracle/SqlServer. The big cost is trying to figure out what it is that
> > you are trying to do.
> >
> > Also, I think the total cost of goods is a bit misleading. A car is
> > much more expensive than walking especially with purchase, insurance,
> > repairs, gas etc. However, do you want to incur the cost of walking?
> > Your assertion that all these people and machines are expensive may
> > mean that you have not reached the level of need that requires them.
> > When you are using a couple of TBytes of data and running 24/7 and
 your
> > still behind in getting things done, maybe the cost is less
 significant?
> >
> > Good skilled people are expensive but productive. The real cost of
 high
> > salaries is getting someone who is not skilled or as skilled as you
 are
> > paying for. A rule of thumb is software development, a good programmer
> > is 20X more productive than an average programmer. I have not seen a
> > good programmer paid 20X her average programmer's salary.
> >
>
> Back on the cost of development.
>
> One can start Oracle development at no cost by downloading personal
> Oracle. You basically need a reasonable PC and NT, and you are off.
>
> I am aware that one is does not need both developers and DBA. I have
> served both functions, especially on small projects. Oracle on the NT is
> also reasonably priced -- at least last I heard.
>
> Scaling up from there is the workstation/small server. A Solaris system
> with 100GB is about $10,000. I am not sure on the Oracle cost.
>
> As far as tools goes, I generally believe one should get the best tools
> available. SQL Server is really good about adding in functionality as
> the base product. Oracle has decided to unbundle the tools. Buy this
> one and that one. Like drugs, you buy what you need. I am aware of
> several 3rd party tools around $2500 that do a great job of
> supplimenting Oracle and Sql Server functionality.
>
> Consider the cost of tools. At contractor prices ($100/hr), most tools
> are just a weeks cost. If they double your productivity, they easily pay
> for themselves.
>

$100/hr ;)
Fine rate, where is that company?

>
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> > Rosetta Inpharmatics
> > mkrolewski_at_rosetta.org
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> >
>
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> Michael Krolewski
> Rosetta Inpharmatics
> mkrolewski_at_rosetta.org
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>
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Received on Thu Dec 07 2000 - 02:14:32 CST