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Re: Larry Ellison comments on Microsoft's benchmark

From: Alexander Penev <webmaster_at_penev.com>
Date: 2000/06/22
Message-ID: <39527E0C.E614B483@penev.com>#1/1

Hi Steve,
It's true that every company tries to blame the compatitor's product and to push theirs but THIS STATEMENTS of L. Ellison ARE JUST TRUE!!!! You can see it yourself:
http://www.tpc.org/results/FDR/Tpcc/compaq.8500.96p.00021702.fdr.pdf

Just see the source code for creating the databases of the databases.......

Steve Jorgensen wrote:

> All companies try to lie with statistics while being technically accurate.
> That's why you have to read every company's benchmarks, their competitors'
> benchmarks, and everyone's critiques of everyone else's benchmarks.
>
> Ivana Humpalot wrote in message ...
> >X-No-Archive: yes
> >
> >
> >In the Analyst Q&A following Oracle's 4th Quarter Earnings Report,
> >Larry Ellison made some very interesting remarks about Microsoft's
> >recent SQL Server 2000 benchmark.
> >
> >If Ellison's comments are true then Microsoft is basically
> >defrauding their customers with their benchmark.
> >
> >I have included below the transcript of his comments.
> >
> >Is Larry Ellison lying or is Microsoft really defrauding their
> >customers with their benchmark?
> >
> >You can listen to the audio here:
> > http://www.nasdaq.com/reference/broadcast_oracle.htm
> >
> >Near the 1 hour mark, an analyst from Paine Webber asked a question
> >about Microsoft SQL Server 2000. The following is Larry Ellison's
> >response:
> >
> > In terms of microsoft.. we have no concerns at all. They still
> > can't scale. They have this benchmark that they got out which
> > works only in the laboratory.
> >
> > The only problem with microsoft's benchmark is that it has a
> > 3-hour mean time of failure. What they have done is to chop up
> > the database in to 10 separate little databases, and if any one
> > of those databases fail it brings down the entire system, or
> > worse yet gives wrong results.
> >
> > So it is a completely bogus benchmark.
> >
> > I mean, it meets the letter of the benchmark rules, however by
> > their own statistics in terms of availability they have a very
> > very short mean time of failure.
> >
> > No one seriously will ever use this kind of system.
> >
> > They have 10 separate computers each with 10% of the database.
> > If you want an 11th computer you have to unload the entire
> > database from the 10 computers and then put 9.1% of the database
> > on the 11 computers. If one of the computers fail you lose 10%
> > of the database. And that means when you use your query.. you
> > don't get the right answer back.
> >
> > If you use 10 separate systems.. if you believe Microsoft's
> > statistics on failure rates.. one failure every 30 days, you are
> > going to get a major system outage or wrong results every 3 days.
> >
> > It is a preposterous benchmark.
> >
> >
> >
> >
Received on Thu Jun 22 2000 - 00:00:00 CDT

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