Re: Oracle Pricing is kind of lame

Oracle will not negotiate much of anything. I had a project with 500 named users and Oracle would not give an inch on their pricing. Yes that was very recent. You tell them you are going to use SQL Server and they just tell you it is junk. Now my client is running all 500 named users in SQL Server and they will be pleased to tell you that SQL Server is not junk. Don't get me wrong, I love Oracle. They just make it very difficult to pitch their product sometimes.

Daniel
Austin, TX

blah <blah_at_yahoo.com> wrote in message news:38B568F1.C69DCBA3_at_yahoo.com...
> I have heard that Oracle will try to at least appear to be jumping through
> hoops to negotiate if you tell them you will most likely have to go with
 SQL
> Server because of pricing.
> Oracle is designed for high - end mostly Unix based environments, but SQL
> Server is kind of a crappy product in comparison (I've admined both). So
 it
> may be in Oracle's best interest to try to work with smaller companies on
> pricing to eliminate the perception that only large companies should be
> using their products.
>
> Dan wrote:
>
> > I agree. Oracle would eliminate SQL Server competition if they only
> > had reasonable pricing. Oracle makes it very difficult for small
> > businesses to afford their products. I think the per Mhz is
> > absolutely ridiculous when there is no way in hell the database will
> > use the processor to capacity with the other non-Oracle processes
> > running.
> >
> > By comparison, SQL Server is only $3,000 per processor regardless of
> > Mhz. It's a crappy database but some of us have no choice.
> >
> > The other alternative is to license the Oracle Standard edition for
> > $15 per Mhz if you don't need the advanced features of the Enterprise
> > Edition.
> >
> > On Thu, 17 Feb 2000 21:39:42 GMT, kevinator_ca_at_my-deja.com wrote:
> >
> > >hello ora-people,
> > > I've been working with oracle for about a 2 years now. In the past,
> > >I've worked on large government contracts that had the funding to pay
> > >Oracle's outrageous licensing fees. Now I work for a smaller company
> > >and I was shocked when I learned how much oracle wants to extort from
> > >us.
> > > If you've looked the web page at http://oraclestore.oracle.com, you
> > >notice that Oracle recently started charging based on "Power Units."
> > >So, as an example, our licence would cost $165K. We have 3 Zeon 550 Mhz
> > >processors and that's what it worked out to. Plus we have to pay a $20K
> > >or 15% in support. BTW : It took my boss 3 hour long phone calls just
> > >to get a replacement disk for the server.
> > > i just wanted to know if my boss and I are the only ones who think
> > >this outrageous. We wanted to switch most of our MS SQL-Server stuff to
> > >Oracle but we probably won't because of the cost issue. One of our
> > >clients insists that we use Oracle so we will still be using it but not
> > >as much as I thought.
> > > I hope it's reasonable to bring this issue up in this newsgroup.
> > >
> > >kevin
> > >
> > >
> > >Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > >Before you buy.
>
Received on Thu Feb 24 2000 - 00:00:00 CST