Re: What do Oracle professionals think of Fabian Pascal?

Paul,

1. I say nothing about "vendor extensions" as such. My criticism is of any violation or dismissal of relational principles which is completely different. If an extension does that, then it's a bad idea.
2. Where you are mistaken is that a vast majority of professionals are not competent as far as data fundamentals are concerned. They may know programming or Oracle, but they have little clue of database and relational fundamentals. Therefore, they cannot assess products or features properly and confuse what the product does with the correct way of doing it. It is one thing to be aware of the problems, but use them because you have no choice (and know what consequences to expect), and another to be oblivious to the problems.

So be very careful with the replies you receive from Oracle professionals. Morgan is an excellent example. For my comments on his competence see:

http://www.dbdebunk.com/page/page/1770593.htm http://www.dbdebunk.com/page/page/1477865.htm

The relational model is application of science--logic and math--to database management. The notion that one is "fanatic" about that is tantamount to claiming that civil engineering is fanatical about the laws of physics. Such a claim reveals problems more serious than ignorance of data fundamentals, and THAT is what deserves disdain. Received on Mon Aug 29 2005 - 13:42:54 CDT