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Re: Why does Oracle cost so much?

From: Daniel Morgan <damorgan_at_x.washington.edu>
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 16:31:14 -0700
Message-ID: <1087947102.490194@yasure>


Ryan Gaffuri wrote:

> Daniel Morgan <damorgan_at_x.washington.edu> wrote in message news:<1087850039.873112_at_yasure>...
> 

>>Ryan Gaffuri wrote:
>>
>>>Daniel Morgan <damorgan_at_x.washington.edu> wrote in message news:<1085723030.893384_at_yasure>...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Niall Litchfield wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>"Daniel Morgan" <damorgan_at_x.washington.edu> wrote in message
>>>>>news:1085030097.77247_at_yasure...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I don't buy or recommend databases for matters of style or taste
>>>>>>or to 'get chicks'. I recommend them based upon a cost benefit
>>>>>>ratio that includes
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>that's so last century that ratio analysis. You need to recommend them on an
>>>>>elapsed time basis. Right at the moment sqlserver has wrapped the counter in
>>>>>waiting for a new version that we are back in single figures...
>>>>
>>>>And until they figure out how to implement multiversioning you won't
>>>>see one either from what I hear.
>>>>
>>>>They are desparately trying to implement basic Oracle functionality
>>>>that for years they have criticized.
>>>>
>>>>Of course once they figure out how to do it they will give it a new
>>>>name and claim it as "their" new and novel contribution to technology.
>>>>But then what else is new.
>>>
>>>
>>>Oracle isn't as expensive as you think. I know a small company that is
>>>getting ORACLE Enterprice Edition + RAC for $8,000 per server on 4-CPU
>>>Servers. It is highly negotiable. Small companies who threaten to go
>>>to SQL Server because its cheaper are getting very good deals. Only
>>>suckers are paying $30k/CPU these days. I worked for a large company
>>>and they got them down to $22k/CPU. You can get your development box
>>>at a fraction of the price.
>>>
>>>Its not 1998 anymore. Negotiate. Threaten to go to another vendor.
>>>They will drop the price a ton. Especially if you are a small-midsize
>>>company. They need to compete with SQL Server.
>>
>>A point I have been making repeatedly. I think Oracle has done itself
>>a huge disservice by posting the preposterous $40K/proc for EE at
>>http://store.oracle.com. Does this really sell any EE licenses? I hope
>>not as anyone stupid enough to pay that price probably can't write a
>>SQL statement. What it does, however, is give ammunition to the
>>competition.
> 
> 
> because there are people out there who pay $32k/CPU and think they got
> a deal because they got a 20% "discount". Some people are suckers...

Best explanation I've heard yet.

Thanks.

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