Re: "We don't do triggers"

"Frank" <fbortel_at_nescape.net> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:bqab18$bdu$1_at_news1.tilbu1.nb.home.nl...
> Volker Hetzer wrote:
>
> Comments inline.
> [SNIP!]
> >>
> >>We're losing the subject here - it's about commercial thinking
> >>and opportunities.
> >>There's a request to support SS2k as well as Oracle. There's also
> >>a request to support the app as a web based app.
> >>s/request/demand/g
> >>
> >>Let me put it another way: how would you propose to do it?
> >>No MySql by default - SS2K and O9i, too!
> >
> > Ok, first I'd try to convince my customer to agree to one
> > platform.
>
> It not just one customer - it's a complete branch (Banking,
> actually)

Yeah, so what? Then I'd *expect* that they have agreed on the database they're imlementing.
Btw, *WHAT* is their stated reason to have it running on two databases?

> > BEA looks all right but it's the "full blown" one too. If you want to
> > let this one loose on the user, you might as well let him have oracle
> > or db2 instead of bea *and* two different databases.
> > I've seen their overview and it's certainly buzzword compliant
> > but they've reinvented about every wheel of the last three decades.
> > That's exactly what irks me so when I hear about appliaction
> > servers. First there was files. Then someone came along and said "hey,
> > what about providing a unified, powerful interface to search those
> > files, change them in a consistent way and implement logic and set
> > theory on the data?" And they called this database and it was great
> > to implement all sorts of rules, business or otherwise. And on
> > every platform it's been ported to you can use the same features.
> > An appserver is exactly the same, only its "files" are dumbed down
> > tables. But it still needs to be ported, there are still several incompatible
> > ones around and one day an user will figure out that all the important
> > stuff goes on in the application server and will say: "But I want your app
> > to support two different app servers!" What then? Microsoft will die
> > before they support java in any meaningful way but it might one day
> > do an application server. Will there then be pre-app-servers, dumbing
> > down the app-servers? You see, app-servers don't solve problems, they
> > time-shift them while costing money.
>
> They do allow thin clients.

So do databases. I don't see your point.

Lots of Greetings!
Volker Received on Mon Dec 01 2003 - 05:39:41 CST