Re: Newbie cannot login

"newbie" <Oracle_sux__--_at_hotmail.com> wrote in message news:bgcjve$n66s2$1_at_ID-158805.news.uni-berlin.de...
> As far as I can see the only big advantage of Oracle is multi-platform

It's really the only choice if you need to run a really big multi-user database, especially if you want your developers to use smaller and cheaper servers. Other database servers start to fall apart if you have lots of users trying shift lots of data in and out.

Also other Oracle features like replication, clustering via parallel server, standby databases and archive logging are important for companies who depend on the database to generate revenue. The company I used to work for would lose tens of millions per day in cash flow if their billing database went down. Of course, this is not really relevant for small scale applications.

> I am amazed there is no serious competitors in the UNIX / LINUX arena

I think the lack of competition is one reason for the high cost and relatively poor quality of Oracle software. It's probably one of the most complex pieces of software available though and Oracle Corp. have a 20 year head start on anybody who wanted to challenge them.

> One would be crazy to use Oracle on a Windows platform.

It's probably true to say that if your application will run on a Windows server, SQLServer will provide a more cost effective solution than Oracle. The companies I've seen using Oracle on Windows are those with Oracle site licences and a team of Oracle DBAs. Use of Oracle for their application is overkill but it's cheaper than buying in a new database server and staff to run it.

> MS SQL has come a long way & is cheaper & of course tightly integrated
> with MS-OSes
> Now I am not exactly a big Microsoft fan (in fact I would like to see
> another
> OS to compete with MS)
>
> I am also not sure if they have cornered the market. MS is catching up
fast
> Unless of course they break MS into 10000 pieces

I think Microsoft and other servers like MySQL are hurting Oracle a lot in the small/midrange database market. Oracle prices have come down a lot recently, particularly for the standard server but I wouldn't be surprised to see Oracle introduce some sort of easy to use 'Oracle light' product in the future to compete more effectively with SQLServer.

I'd be interested to hear other peoples' opinions about this.

Richard

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> "Richard" <qaz1521_at_hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:bgc9il$12m$1$8300dec7_at_news.demon.co.uk...
> >
> > > I agree with the Newbie - Oracle should reduce to something useable
> > > right out of the box.
> >
> > Don't you think Oracle Corp. have no incentive to do this? They've got
> the
> > market for big database servers cornered so they don't need to worry
about
> > losing customers.
> >
> > Also, if they made it easier to use, they'd reduce their income from
> > training and consultancy. Why else would they be preparing to bring out
> > Oracle 10 when plenty of users haven't even started using Oracle 9?
Think
> > of all the cash they'll make from the 'Oracle 10 new features' courses
and
> > books. Not to mention all of the DBAs who'll want to get recertified.
> >
> > Cynical? Me?
> >
> > Richard
> >
> >
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Received on Fri Aug 01 2003 - 11:31:49 CDT