PS.... Daniel .... I am UK bound, midterms are being completed as we speak
"DA Morgan" <damorgan_at_exesolutions.com> wrote in message
news:3E42C53B.A057B421_at_exesolutions.com...
> Karsten Farrell wrote:
>
> > damorgan_at_exesolutions.com said...
> > > So the short version of what has turned into a very long answer ... is
that I care a
> > > lot as do other instructors. I send my students to tahiti.oracle.com,
I send them to
> > > asktom.oracle.com, I send them all over the internet for study support
and research.
> > > I even encourage them to use these resources, class notes, class web
site, and books
> > > when taking tests. But that is far different from passing exam
questions to you or
> > > me or Tom and asking us to do their work. Does this make sense?
> > >
> > > Daniel Morgan
> > >
> >
> > Thanks, Daniel. I apologize if I acted unethically in supplying an
> > answer. It's very difficult (for me, at least) to determine if a
> > question comes from a student or an employee (without them standing
> > right in front of me where I can use body language to help make that
> > determination).
> >
> > Who's to say, for example, that recent NG questions about Oracle
> > architecture (eg, LMT vs DMT, or SGA sizing) are not attempts by
> > students of the local (Univ. Calif. San Diego) Oracle architecture
> > class?
> >
> > At my current employer (and at others as well), developers often come to
> > me to ask a "simple" SQL question such as the one I answered. At first,
> > I'm amazed that developers don't know the answer ... but, rather than
> > tell them so, I answer their question. After all, I do love my current
> > job and want to keep it. These developers could dance circles around my
> > limited knowledge of Java; and I have to prove to them that PL/SQL can
> > do almost anything in the database that Java can.
> >
> > It's not just students who have trouble with SQL and PL/SQL.
> >
> > I have 7 kids and 13 grandchildren, so I know students can sometimes opt
> > for the easy way out. But I always try to follow a rule my mother taught
> > me ... assume from the start that someone is good and honest.
> >
> > But I do understand the predicament instructors are in. Hopefully, none
> > of your students are brazen enough to cheat, knowing you're diligent in
> > uncovering their deceit. And I do apologize if, in my ignorance, I do
> > end up giving the answer to a student.
> >
> > --
> > /Karsten
>
> I don't think you did anything wrong given that (A) you didn't know it was
a student and
> (B) I could easily be incorrect in my judgement (something I don't
forget). But I do think
> it important to emphasize, from time-to-time that this happens ... what
prompts me to be
> skeptical is when they happen at specific times of the year, like this
week, when we are
> giving midterms as are a lot of other colleges and universities. <g>
>
> Thanks for being understanding of my concerns.
>
> Daniel Morgan
>
Received on Thu Feb 06 2003 - 20:01:50 CST
