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Re: Didn't mean to ruffle any feathers

From: George <junk_at_ixsis.com>
Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2003 19:58:19 GMT
Message-ID: <v1HR9.429446$pN3.47838@sccrnsc03>


Sorry to inform you but the only system in our facility with any Oracle access did NOT have the docs installed. As far as the 'I dont have time' excuse, I guess you work in an environment where you can just get up, go to a book store, spend the day reading and come back just in time to do the whole project. You must have missed the key point to my dilema. I had about 6 hours do get this done. No warning, no prep, no resources, no manuals, no web access and no experience with Oracle.

I turned to the only place I could for help and that help was for the most part not very helpful. Tell me, what would you do in my situation?

"Jim Kennedy" <kennedy-down_with_spammers_at_attbi.com> wrote in message news:UDGR9.233268$qF3.19267_at_sccrnsc04...
> I read the "I don't have time" excuse as "my time is more important than
> your time". Which is I think the point some people are trying to make.
(no
> it isn't) Also the manuals should be available on the CD that came with
the
> product. Mine always was. I have been doing this for years and I still
> refer to the manuals and other books to get my job done. I read all the
> time; it is part of the job.
> Jim
>
> --
> Replace part of the email address: kennedy-down_with_spammers_at_attbi.com
> with family. Remove the negative part, keep the minus sign. You can
figure
> it out.
> "George" <junk_at_ixsis.com> wrote in message
> news:fcFR9.561808$P31.191578_at_rwcrnsc53...
> > I didn't mean to cause a stink here. I was sitting in my office and was
> told
> > I had to get data from our Oracle based ERP system 2200 miles away into
> my
> > SQL Server by days end. I have no manuals and our firewall blocks port
80
> > (and getting that open would take an act of congress). So searching for
> > help on the web is out. I do not have time to take classes or read
books.
> I
> > DO have usenet access so I used it. In doing so I chose the least
> > restrictive group I could find - comp.databases.oracle.misc
> >
> > In all my years utililizing the SQL server groups, never have I seen so
> many
> > 'professionals' tell a person to take a class or read a book. In fact,
the
> > response that Vladimir left below is what I am used to. I realize full
> well
> > that you do this because you want to not becasue you have to. Once
again,
> > you could simply have chosen to neglect the post completely.
> >
> > Thank you Vladimir for your response. It was most helpful.
> >
> >
> >
> > "George" <junk_at_ixsis.com> wrote in message
> > news:jCtR9.553405$P31.188196_at_rwcrnsc53...
> > > I didn't realize you Oracle guys were so aggressive in your responses.
> If
> > > you don't want to help, just don't. I would rather not have a post
> > responded
> > > to then get your pompus attitude. Thank you (and Ed ) for your help
> > > thusfar. I will make sure to not post here for help in the future.
> > >
> > > I'm sorry I missed the post declaring that usenet was suddenly for
> experts
> > > only.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "DA Morgan" <damorgan_at_exesolutions.com> wrote in message
> > > news:3E162E23.87CEBC4C_at_exesolutions.com...
> > > > George wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Wonderful! Thanks
> > > > >
> > > > > Now this opens a whole new can of worms for me.
> > > > >
> > > > > The first one to come to mind is the select * statement. I am
> > assuming
> > > that
> > > > > this can be a lengthy operation if the table has many fields and
> > > modifying
> > > > > the table later would rise cause to modify all procedures that
> contain
> > a
> > > > > select * from the modified table.
> > > > >
> > > > > Also how then does the procedure return records to the client, or
> does
> > > it
> > > > > not? I then surmize that using procedures to return records to the
> > > client is
> > > > > might not be the prefered method but rather a view?
> > > > >
> > > > > "DA Morgan" <damorgan_at_exesolutions.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:3E15BA0A.EC90F173_at_exesolutions.com...
> > > > > > George wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I am coming from a SQL Server background so be gentle...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I am trying to get this simple procedure worked out and it
> > compiles
> > > > > invalid.
> > > > > > > What am I doing wrong
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > BEGIN
> > > > > > > SELECT SSN FROM STUDENT;
> > > > > > > END;
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You must SELECT into something.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > PL/SQL is a server language not a client language.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So you SELECT statement slelects the value into nothingness.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Try this:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > DECLARE
> > > > > >
> > > > > > x student.ssn%TYPE;
> > > > > >
> > > > > > BEGIN
> > > > > > SELECT ssn
> > > > > > INTO x
> > > > > > FROM student;
> > > > > > END;
> > > > > > /
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Daniel Morgan
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > We don't run an Oracle tutorial service here on the usenet. You need
> to
> > go
> > > to
> > > > your local bookstore or take a class.
> > > >
> > > > Ed gave you a good answer for returning multiple rows inside a
> procedure
> > > but
> > > > not necessarily for returning them to a front-end program. You need
to
> > use
> > > > http://tahiti.oracle.com to look up your questions before coming
here
> > for
> > > tips
> > > > when you get stuck. To get you started on this one look up "REF
> CURSOR".
> > > >
> > > > Daniel Morgan
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Received on Sat Jan 04 2003 - 13:58:19 CST

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