Re: So ya think 7.3.4 is desupported...

"Sybrand Bakker" <postbus_at_sybrandb.demon.nl> wrote in message news:<upasrr2115t7a6_at_corp.supernews.com>...
> "Joel Garry" <joel-garry_at_home.com> wrote in message
> news:91884734.0209271548.49a0cfb_at_posting.google.com...
> > Oracle desupport notices are very interesting. They very clearly
> > state a date when ECS (Error Correction Services) is no longer
> > supported - say, 31-Dec-2000 for 7.3.4
> >
> > But...
> >
> > If you read further down in the desupport notice, it talks about
> > EMS (Extended Maintenance Service), which would be 31-Dec-2002 for
> > 7.3.4. Then it very clearly states what is and is not included in
> > EMS... and very clearly states that it does include ECS. Seems the
> > only thing EMS doesn't support is certification to newer OS or
> > compilers.
> >
> > How 'bout that! Similar statements seem to be in all the desupport
> > notices. Ya pays ya money and ya takes ya choice.
> >
> > jg
> > --
> > @home is bogus.
> > What's the deal with CORBA not in 9.2, anyways? Wasn't that supposed
> > to be The Next Big Thing?
>
>
> I don't think this advice is very useful. Most people retaining an old
> version simply do nothing about their support license, hence they are
> unsupported.

I think it is useful, as the net.wisdom is that it is not supported.

Certainly _you_ have said it.

> Also, you remain stuck to whatever version of hardware and O/S you have, and
> the O/S and/or the hardware is likely to be unsupported too.

You may be stuck, but the O/S/hardware is a different issue, and is certainly NOT true in many cases. It may be absurd, as in NASA buying from ebay...

> That will usually result in unpleasant surprises when the server goes down,
> and no hardware replacement exists.
> And I think, if you would have really read the terms of ECS and EMS
> carefully you would have noticed they do almost nothing for you.
> In short, I think this advice as a generic advice is stupid and
> unprofessional.

Is it as stupid and unprofessional as explicitly wrong advice?

Is what I posted even advice? I'm simply stating what is easily available through metalink that happens to disagree with your world view.

I didn't say it was a good thing, but I've spent years in large organizations that have an amazing spread of modern and obsolete stuff. Someone has to work on it, and they probably are in need of correct information. If you happen to be a large government organization with a huge support contract covering the whole place,you may indeed have the clout to get a bug fix. At least, the people that tend to be in charge of such places like to think so, and I have a bit of trouble imagining O salespeople disabusing them of the notion.

jg

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@home is bogus.
Why is google down for temporary maintenance so much?