Oracle Corp using desupported versions for it's activities was Re: asktom.oracle.com

From: Sybrand Bakker <postbus_at_sybrandb.demon.nl>
Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 14:10:37 +0100
Message-ID: <u81k75qsbe6ccb@corp.supernews.com>

"Connor McDonald" <connor_mcdonald_at_yahoo.com> wrote in message news:3C80BB63.4EA3_at_yahoo.com...
> Thomas Kyte wrote:
> >
> > In article <lEzf8.4568$zU2.716670_at_news1.news.adelphia.net>, "Scott
says...
> > >
> > >Is there something going on to make it so very slow right now?
> > >
> > >
> >
> > You seem to have posted at 8:49 am GMT on friday (3:49 am EST for me)...
> >
> > Over the last 24 hours (from 9:50am EST thurs - 9:50am EST fri) my stats
for
> > page generation were:
> >
> > Pages Genererated 18,149
> > Avg Elap seconds/page 0.37
> > Slowest/Fastest Page 4.45/0.12 seconds (some of my report pages
take a bit)
> >
> > I did not see any unusual spike or decline in pages generated:
> >
> > CASEWH CNT_LAST_24HRS CNT_PRIOR_24HRS CNT_DIFF
> > ------ -------------- --------------- ----------
> > Fri 02 465 578 -113
> > Fri 03 709 763 -54
> > Fri 04 753 725 28
> > Fri 05 578 475 103
> >
> > the traffic was about the same as the same period 24 hours ago....
> >
> > 1 select to_char(time_stamp,'hh24'), min(elap), max(elap), avg(elap),
count(*)
> > 2 from wwv_flow_activity_log1$
> > 3 where time_stamp between to_date( '01-mar-2002 2am', 'dd-mon-yyyy
hham' )
> > 4 and to_date( '01-mar-2002 5am', 'dd-mon-yyyy hham' )
> > 5* group by to_char(time_stamp,'hh24' )
> > flows_at_OSI816> /
> >
> > TO MIN(ELAP) MAX(ELAP) AVG(ELAP) COUNT(*)
> > -- ---------- ---------- ---------- ----------
> > 02 .14 2.42 .380516129 465
> > 03 .14 2.15 .354654443 709
> > 04 .14 2.32 .364196547 753
> >
> > flows_at_OSI816>
> >
> > the pages/hour for that period looked OK as well.
> >
> > I'll have someone look at the network later but I don't see any problems
on this
> > end.
> >
> > --
> > Thomas Kyte (tkyte@us.oracle.com) http://asktom.oracle.com/
> > Expert one on one Oracle, programming techniques and solutions for
Oracle.
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> > Opinions are mine and do not necessarily reflect those of Oracle Corp

>

> OSI816 ?!?!

>

> Surely you're not using 8.1.6 - the people at Oracle marketing told me
> that this was obsolete and that everyone in the world was upgrading to,
> or already on, 9i

>

> I can't believe they would be be lying to me :-)

>

> --
> ==============================
> Connor McDonald

>

> http://www.oracledba.co.uk

>
> "Some days you're the pigeon, some days you're the statue..."

Guess what I saw them using at Oracle University in the Netherlands in November 2001 during an 8i upgrade course? And they didn't even have updated the course notes to 8.1.7 Also the instructor was complaining they were not allowed to choose their own hardware anymore, so they would loose their Unix systems.

Strange enough there were some slides about hot standby databases, which is available in Oracle SE only.
I pointed him to this fact and he replied with 'Who is using Standard?'

But then of course Larry's wealth is not even nearing Bill's wealth, so he probably can't afford running his own databases on a current version.

If Oracle Corp doesn't upgrade, why upgrade at all? There are many sites in the Netherlands running desupported software, and my firm, working in remote maintenance, is more and more getting hurt by that, because if anything happens (and none of these customers have EAS or ECS) we are simply stuck. I already have several problems which I can't address without upgrading.

Anyone of the Oracle regulars care to comment?

Regards

--
Sybrand Bakker
Senior Oracle DBA

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Received on Sat Mar 02 2002 - 07:10:37 CST