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From: Jonathan Lewis <jlewisoracle@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2021 17:19:23 +0000
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Subject: Re: [External] : Re: Question on gathering System Statistics
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Splitting hairs here, but:

"argument from authority" is "argumentum ab auctoritate"   (e.g. "from year
of experiance with the CBO I can assure you that gathering systems stats is
not a good idea ... ").

"argumentum ad verecundiam" is "appeal to authority". (e.g. Nigel Bayliss
is the PM for the optimizer and he says you don't need to gather system
stats ...).


Regards
Jonathan Lewis


On Tue, 2 Feb 2021 at 15:33, Mladen Gogala <gogala.mladen@gmail.com> wrote:

> I am one of those guys who has real problems with authority. When I was a
> kid, I challenged my math teacher to prove the Pythagora theorem and I told
> her that I don't believe it without proof. She had my parents come to
> school. That nasty attitude was further reinforced by me getting a Bsc in
> mathematics few years later. Latin name for the argument from authority is
> "argumentum ad verecundiam" and is considered to be a logical error since
> the Roman times. I need some kind of explanation why is that so. I have
> nothing but respect for Maria, Nigel and Jonathan, but I need some kind of
> explanation. BTW, my favorite movie of all times is "Life of Brian", which
> also has something to do with challenging authority.
>
>

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 but:</div><div><br></div><div>&quot;argument from authority&quot; is &quot=
;argumentum ab auctoritate&quot;=C2=A0=C2=A0 (e.g. &quot;from year of exper=
iance with the CBO I can assure you that gathering systems stats is not a g=
ood idea ... &quot;).<br></div><div><br></div><div>&quot;argumentum ad
      verecundiam&quot; is &quot;appeal to authority&quot;. (e.g. Nigel Bay=
liss is the PM for the optimizer and he says you don&#39;t need to gather s=
ystem stats ...).</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Regards</div><div=
>Jonathan Lewis</div><div><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, 2 Feb 2021 at 15:33, Mladen Gog=
ala &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gogala.mladen@gmail.com">gogala.mladen@gmail.com<=
/a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0=
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    <p>I am one of those guys who has real problems with authority. When
      I was a kid, I challenged my math teacher to prove the Pythagora
      theorem and I told her that I don&#39;t believe it without proof. She
      had my parents come to school. That nasty attitude was further
      reinforced by me getting a Bsc in mathematics few years later.
      Latin name for the argument from authority is &quot;argumentum ad
      verecundiam&quot; and is considered to be a logical error since the
      Roman times. I need some kind of explanation why is that so. I
      have nothing but respect for Maria, Nigel and Jonathan, but I need
      some kind of explanation. BTW, my favorite movie of all times is
      &quot;Life of Brian&quot;, which also has something to do with challe=
nging
      authority. <br>
    </p><br></div>

</blockquote></div></div>

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