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From: Igor Neyman <igor.neyman@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2019 12:29:13 -0400
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Subject: Re: Migration to Postgres training
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My organization switched from Oracle to Postgres 11 years ago.
So, I could argue regarding "something harder to maintain", and regarding
savings on licenses. Every specific situation is different, and requires
specific tool.
Just don't want to start a "religious war" :)

Regards,
Igor Neyman

On Thu, Aug 8, 2019 at 10:47 AM Bill Ferguson <wbfergus@gmail.com> wrote:

> My organization is trying to push Postgres as well, but running some basic
> numbers, it wouldn't save my organization any money, just transfer the
> costs to a different account.
>
> It also doesn't even address the added costs of migrating every single
> Apex application into a whole new environment, with entirely new code. With
> any luck I'll be retiring next year and my tax dollars can either spent on
> keeping things working, or taking them all offline for several years while
> they get rewritten in something harder to maintain, and just as expensive
> to run.
>
> Bill Ferguson
>
> On Tue, Aug 6, 2019 at 6:51 PM Joshua D. Drake <jd@commandprompt.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Howdy,
>>
>> This email is not to cause any trouble but I know there are a lot of
>> Oracle shops pushing workloads to Postgres nowadays. There is a training
>> at Postgres Conference Silicon Valley in September on migrating from
>> Oracle to Postgres:
>>
>>
>> https://postgresconf.org/conferences/SV2019/program/proposals/oracle-to-postgresql-migration-tutorial
>>
>> The conference is organized via 501c3 and volunteers. We would love to
>> have everyone there.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> JD
>>
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>> Command Prompt, Inc. || http://the.postgres.company/ || @cmdpromptinc
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>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> -- Bill Ferguson
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>My organization switched from Oracle to Postgres 11 y=
ears ago.</div><div>So, I could argue regarding &quot;something harder to m=
aintain&quot;, and regarding savings on licenses. Every specific situation =
is different, and requires specific tool.<br></div><div>Just don&#39;t want=
 to start a &quot;religious war&quot; :)</div><div><br></div><div>Regards,<=
/div><div>Igor Neyman<br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div di=
r=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Aug 8, 2019 at 10:47 AM Bill Ferguso=
n &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:wbfergus@gmail.com">wbfergus@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrot=
e:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0=
.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"l=
tr"><div><div>My organization is trying to push Postgres as well, but runni=
ng some basic numbers, it wouldn&#39;t save my organization any money, just=
 transfer the costs to a different account.<br><br></div>It also doesn&#39;=
t even address the added costs of migrating every single Apex application i=
nto a whole new environment, with entirely new code. With any luck I&#39;ll=
 be retiring next year and my tax dollars can either spent on keeping thing=
s working, or taking them all offline for several years while they get rewr=
itten in something harder to maintain, and just as expensive to run.<br><br=
></div>Bill Ferguson<br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"lt=
r" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Aug 6, 2019 at 6:51 PM Joshua D. Drake &lt;=
<a href=3D"mailto:jd@commandprompt.com" target=3D"_blank">jd@commandprompt.=
com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"marg=
in:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1e=
x">Howdy,<br>
<br>
This email is not to cause any trouble but I know there are a lot of <br>
Oracle shops pushing workloads to Postgres nowadays. There is a training <b=
r>
at Postgres Conference Silicon Valley in September on migrating from <br>
Oracle to Postgres:<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"https://postgresconf.org/conferences/SV2019/program/proposals/or=
acle-to-postgresql-migration-tutorial" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"=
>https://postgresconf.org/conferences/SV2019/program/proposals/oracle-to-po=
stgresql-migration-tutorial</a><br>
<br>
The conference is organized via 501c3 and volunteers. We would love to <br>
have everyone there.<br>
<br>
Thanks!<br>
<br>
JD<br>
<br>
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Command Prompt, Inc. || <a href=3D"http://the.postgres.company/" rel=3D"nor=
eferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://the.postgres.company/</a> || @cmdpromptin=
c<br>
Postgres centered full stack support, consulting and development.<br>
Advocate: @amplifypostgres || Get help: <a href=3D"https://commandprompt.co=
m/" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://commandprompt.com/</a><br>
*****=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Unless otherwise stated, opinions are my own.=C2=
=A0 =C2=A0*****<br>
<br>
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rget=3D"_blank">http://www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l</a><br>
<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"g=
mail-m_5921401184096236154gmail_signature">-- Bill Ferguson</div>
</blockquote></div>

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