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The "policies" are explicitly non-contractual and may be revoked or changed=
 by Oracle at any time. However, there is probably a good legal argument th=
at you relied on them for guidance.


The Northern California Oracle Users Group is a volunteer-run 501(c)(3) org=
anization that has been serving the Oracle Database community of Northern C=
alifornia for more than thirty years by organizing four conferences a year =
and publishing a quarterly journal. Download the complete digital archive o=
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From: oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org <oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org> on beha=
lf of Dave <oracle@1001111.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2018 12:04 PM
To: oracle-l@freelists.org
Subject: Re Oracle Licensing

> This has the relevant answers you're looking for:
> https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.o=
racle.com%2Fassets%2Fdata-recovery-licensing-070587.pdf&amp;data=3D02%7C01%=
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N%2FfvlhZtraE%3D&amp;reserved=3D0

So, forgive me, but am I correct in thinking that my hot standby server
now has to be licensed? And is supposed to have been since 2014?

Even though, as long as it wasn't open, a standby never had to be licensed
before 2014?

Dave
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So, forgive me, but am I correct in thinking that my hot standby server<br>
now has to be licensed? And is supposed to have been since 2014?<br>
<br>
Even though, as long as it wasn't open, a standby never had to be licensed =
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before 2014? <br>
<br>
Dave<br>
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