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Subject: Re: Oracle Enterprise Licence Change for Azure Cloud
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Jeremiah

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What a great tip! Didn=C2=B4t know about this AWS schema conversion tool.

I have to migrate a database from Oracle to MySQL on AWS, I was thinking on=
 using
Pentaho PDI tools to do the work but this looks promising.

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FJA


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From: <oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org> on behalf of Jeremiah Cetlin Wilton <=
jcwilton93@earlham.edu>
Reply-To: <jcwilton93@earlham.edu>
Date: Thursday, February 2, 2017 at 12:58 PM
To: <oracle@dunbar-it.co.uk>
Cc: Oracle Mailing List <oracle-l@freelists.org>
Subject: Re: Oracle Enterprise Licence Change for Azure Cloud

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AWS Schema Conversion Tool:

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https://aws.amazon.com/dms/#sct

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AWS Database Migration Service:

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https://aws.amazon.com/dms



Jeremiah

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From: "Norman Dunbar" <oracle@dunbar-it.co.uk>
To: "Oracle Mailing List" <oracle-l@freelists.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2017 2:14:49 AM
Subject: Re: Oracle Enterprise Licence Change for Azure Cloud

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Morning All,

For some reason, I'm not receiving any replies on this thread, so I'm reply=
ing "blind", hope it works. I had to read replies from the archives, on line=
.

Niall, as of a telephone call yesterday, from Oracle, we have suddenly beco=
me very much under licenced, at a rather substantial cost. No discounts offe=
red or given, unless, we switch to Oracle Cloud from Azure. Go figure.

I'm not up on all that "may not be incorporated into a contract" guff to be=
 honest, does it mean we can't be held to it? Does it mean Oracle cannot cha=
rge it as we didn't have it in our contract? I'll pass, and leave it to the =
legal bods to sort out what the words say, and what they actually mean! I'll=
 stick with the databases myself, leave the licencing and people managing to=
 others.

I feel a lunchtime project coming on, PL/SQL to PostgreSQL converter! How h=
ard could it be. Checks Google .... oh good, it's been done already!


Cheers,
Norm.
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Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.


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t;font-family:Calibri'>Jeremiah<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><spa=
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p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri'>What a =
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pan></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri=
'>I have to migrate a database from Oracle to MySQL on AWS, I was thinking o=
n using<br>Pentaho PDI tools to do the work but this looks promising.<o:p></=
o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:=
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ze:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri'>FJA<br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMso=
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:black'>From: </span></b><span style=3D'font-family:Calibri;color:black'>&lt;o=
racle-l-bounce@freelists.org&gt; on behalf of Jeremiah Cetlin Wilton &lt;jcw=
ilton93@earlham.edu&gt;<br><b>Reply-To: </b>&lt;jcwilton93@earlham.edu&gt;<b=
r><b>Date: </b>Thursday, February 2, 2017 at 12:58 PM<br><b>To: </b>&lt;orac=
le@dunbar-it.co.uk&gt;<br><b>Cc: </b>Oracle Mailing List &lt;oracle-l@freeli=
sts.org&gt;<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: Oracle Enterprise Licence Change for Azur=
e Cloud<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p>=
</p></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:Arial;color:=
black'>AWS Schema Conversion Tool:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D=
MsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:Arial;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:Arial;color:bla=
ck'>https://aws.amazon.com/dms/#sct<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=
=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:Arial;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></sp=
an></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:Arial;color:bl=
ack'>AWS Database Migration Service:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p clas=
s=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:Arial;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></s=
pan></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:Arial;color:b=
lack;background:white'>https://aws.amazon.com/dms</span><span style=3D'font-fa=
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iv><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span style=3D'font-family:Arial;color:black'>Fr=
om: </span></b><span style=3D'font-family:Arial;color:black'>&quot;Norman Dunb=
ar&quot; &lt;oracle@dunbar-it.co.uk&gt;<br><b>To: </b>&quot;Oracle Mailing L=
ist&quot; &lt;oracle-l@freelists.org&gt;<br><b>Sent: </b>Thursday, February =
2, 2017 2:14:49 AM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: Oracle Enterprise Licence Change f=
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e reason, I'm not receiving any replies on this thread, so I'm replying &quo=
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ne.<br><br>Niall, as of a telephone call yesterday, from Oracle, we have sud=
denly become very much under licenced, at a rather substantial cost. No disc=
ounts offered or given, unless, we switch to Oracle Cloud from Azure. Go fig=
ure.<br><br>I'm not up on all that &quot;may not be incorporated into a cont=
ract&quot; guff to be honest, does it mean we can't be held to it? Does it m=
ean Oracle cannot charge it as we didn't have it in our contract? I'll pass,=
 and leave it to the legal bods to sort out what the words say, and what the=
y actually mean! I'll stick with the databases myself, leave the licencing a=
nd people managing to others.<br><br>I feel a lunchtime project coming on, P=
L/SQL to PostgreSQL converter! How hard could it be. Checks Google .... oh g=
ood, it's been done already!<br><br><br>Cheers,<br>Norm.<br>-- <br>Sent from=
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