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ss=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>Sorry, hit =E2=80=98send=E2=80=99 ac=
cidentally . Ignore the incomplete end of the last message.</p><p class=3DM=
soNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Thanks </p><p class=3DMs=
oNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p c=
lass=3DMsoNormal><br>----------------------------------------<br>Thank you<=
/p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times =
New Roman",serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div style=3D'mso-element:par=
a-border-div;border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0=
in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'border:none;padding:0in'><b>From: </b=
><a href=3D"mailto:fmhabash@gmail.com">fmhabash@gmail.com</a><br><b>Sent: <=
/b>Friday, September 9, 2016 5:51 PM<br><b>To: </b><a href=3D"mailto:sethmi=
ller.sm@gmail.com">Seth Miller</a><br><b>Cc: </b><a href=3D"mailto:oracle-l=
@freelists.org">'oracle-l@freelists.org' (oracle-l@freelists.org)</a><br><b=
>Subject: </b>RE: Grid Networking Reliance on DHCP</p></div><p class=3DMsoN=
ormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>=
<o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>For the dhcp settings, are=
 the GI/RAC cluster nodes configured any differently in regards of =E2=80=
=98max-lease-time=E2=80=99? </p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><=
p class=3DMsoNormal>I=E2=80=99m not sure ohw to </p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o=
:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMso=
Normal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><br>----------------------=
------------------<br>Thank you</p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font=
-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
/p><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0=
in 0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From: </b><a href=3D"mailto:sethmiller.=
sm@gmail.com">Seth Miller</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Friday, September 9, 2016 4:0=
5 PM<br><b>To: </b><a href=3D"mailto:fmhabash@gmail.com">fmhabash@gmail.com=
</a><br><b>Cc: </b><a href=3D"mailto:oracle-l@freelists.org">'oracle-l@free=
lists.org' (oracle-l@freelists.org)</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: Grid Network=
ing Reliance on DHCP<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=
=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p>=
</span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-f=
amily:"Times New Roman",serif'>I don't doubt this happened to you but I wou=
ld say due to the lack of response from the rest of the list and zero menti=
ons of this problem on MOS, it probably has something more to do with your =
environment.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'=
font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></sp=
an></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font=
-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>The bug fix you mentioned is almost three =
years old. Has that fix not been applied to your system?<o:p></o:p></span><=
/p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"T=
imes New Roman",serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMs=
oNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif=
'>All of my clusters use the corporate DNS with DHCP for the public and pri=
vate IPs and GNS for everything else.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div=
><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times Ne=
w Roman",serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal=
><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-=
size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>Seth<o:p></o:p></span></p>=
</div></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-=
family:"Times New Roman",serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><p class=
=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",=
serif'>On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 12:38 PM, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fmhabash@gmai=
l.com" target=3D"_blank">fmhabash@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></span=
></p><blockquote style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;paddi=
ng:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;ma=
rgin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>There are so many differe=
nt implementations/infrastructure configs &amp; bugs, everything is possibl=
e. Googling =E2=80=98Unable to obtain IPv4 DHCP=E2=80=99 will reveal multip=
le scenarios. There are also known RH bugs that cause dhclient to fail to r=
enew the IP e.g. RHBA-2013:1572.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<=
/p><p class=3DMsoNormal>This is the failure we see in the dmesg. The ifup-e=
th invoked dhclient. This script IF condition returned the error blow as a =
result of dhclient not getting its IP. As a result, OSW logs shows that the=
 node had lost all its public/VIPs at the time. Event lasted for about 30 s=
econds. NTPD reacted by deleting the interfaces from its configuration.</p>=
<p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;</p><p class=3DMsoNormal>We see no evidence of d=
evice errors. Thus, letting these entries guide us through.</p><p class=3DM=
soNormal>&nbsp;</p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Aug 22 16:30:05 xxxxx dhclient[1231=
9]: Please report for this software via the Oracle Bugzilla site:</p><p cla=
ss=3DMsoNormal>Aug 22 16:30:05 xxxxx dhclient[12319]:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p; <a href=3D"http://bugzilla.oracle.com" target=3D"_blank">http://bugzilla=
.oracle.com</a></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Aug 22 16:30:05 xxxxx dhclient[1231=
9]:</p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Aug 22 16:30:05 xxxxx dhclient[12319]: exiting.=
</p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Aug 22 16:30:05 xxxxx /etc/sysconfig/network-scrip=
ts/ifup-eth: Unable to obtain IPv4 DHCP address eth0.</p><p class=3DMsoNorm=
al>=E2=80=A6</p><p style=3D'margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style=
=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Aug 22 16:30:08 </sp=
an>xxxxx <span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>=
ntpd[22275]: Deleting interface #8 eth0:4, 172.26.208.59#123, interface sta=
ts: received=3D0, sent=3D0, dropped=3D0, active_time=3D1754 secs</span></p>=
<p style=3D'margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style=3D'font-size:11.0=
pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Aug 22 16:30:08 </span>xxxxx <span sty=
le=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>ntpd[22275]: Delet=
ing interface #7 eth0:3, 172.26.208.127#123, interface stats: received=3D0,=
 sent=3D0, dropped=3D0, active_time=3D1756 secs</span></p><p style=3D'margi=
n:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"C=
alibri",sans-serif'>Aug 22 16:30:08 </span>xxxxx <span style=3D'font-size:1=
1.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>ntpd[22275]: </span></p><p class=3D=
MsoNormal>&nbsp;</p><p class=3DMsoNormal>What do you have the BOOTPROTO set=
 up to in your ifcfg-ethx, for example?</p><p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;</p><=
p class=3DMsoNormal>Thanks</p><p class=3DMsoNormal><br>--------------------=
--------------------<br>Thank you</p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'fo=
nt-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>&nbsp;</span></p><div s=
tyle=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0i=
n'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From: </b><a href=3D"mailto:sethmiller.sm@gmail.=
com" target=3D"_blank">Seth Miller</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Thursday, September =
8, 2016 6:09 PM<br><b>To: </b><a href=3D"mailto:fmhabash@gmail.com" target=
=3D"_blank">fmhabash@gmail.com</a><br><b>Cc: </b><a href=3D"mailto:oracle-l=
@freelists.org" target=3D"_blank">'oracle-l@freelists.org' (oracle-l@freeli=
sts.org)</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: Grid Networking Reliance on DHCP</p></d=
iv><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times =
New Roman",serif'>&nbsp;</span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D=
'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>Over the last decade=
, I have never had or heard of a DHCP lease renewal failure causing a clust=
erware node failover.&nbsp;This seems like a pretty specific problem with y=
our DNS.</span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0p=
t;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>&nbsp;</span></p></div><div><p class=
=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",=
serif'>Regardless, is there a reason you are not using what I have found to=
 be the easiest to implement and manage, least error prone, and most scalab=
le option - GNS?</span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'f=
ont-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>&nbsp;</span></p></div=
><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Tim=
es New Roman",serif'>&nbsp;</span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span=
 style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>Seth</span>=
</p></div></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;f=
ont-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>&nbsp;</span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNor=
mal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>On=
 Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 4:15 PM, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fmhabash@gmail.com" tar=
get=3D"_blank">fmhabash@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</span></p><blockquote styl=
e=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;=
margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><d=
iv><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>True, but if they are left under the control o=
f DHCP, I have seen issues when dhclient attempts to renew the lease on the=
se IPs and it fails for some reason. As s result, the VIPs are gone and a f=
ailover is triggered.</p><p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;</p><p class=3DMsoNorma=
l>This can be resolved either by configuring these IPs to never expire or r=
emove DHCP altogether. In such case, I=E2=80=99m thinking the virtual inter=
faces need to be configured with BOOTPROTO=3D&quot;static&quot;</p><p class=
=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;</p><p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;</p><p class=3DMsoNormal>=
Feedback appreciated. </p><p class=3DMsoNormal><br>------------------------=
----------------<br>Thank you</p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>&nbsp;</span></p><div style=
=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><=
p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From: </b><a href=3D"mailto:sethmiller.sm@gmail.com"=
 target=3D"_blank">Seth Miller</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Thursday, September 8, 2=
016 5:02 PM<br><b>To: </b><a href=3D"mailto:fmhabash@gmail.com" target=3D"_=
blank">fmhabash@gmail.com</a><br><b>Cc: </b><a href=3D"mailto:oracle-l@free=
lists.org" target=3D"_blank">'oracle-l@freelists.org' (oracle-l@freelists.o=
rg)</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: Grid Networking Reliance on DHCP</p></div><p=
 class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New R=
oman",serif'>&nbsp;</span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font=
-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>The VIPs are created and =
managed by clusterware. You shouldn't need a configuration file at all for =
them.</span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;f=
ont-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>&nbsp;</span></p></div><div><p class=3D=
MsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",ser=
if'>&nbsp;</span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-si=
ze:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>Seth</span></p></div></div><=
div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times=
 New Roman",serif'>&nbsp;</span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=
=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>On Thu, Sep 8, 20=
16 at 3:54 PM, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fmhabash@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">=
fmhabash@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</span></p><blockquote style=3D'border:non=
e;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8=
pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p clas=
s=3DMsoNormal>I know there are 3 options to configure the public network fo=
r a GI cluster. GNS, DHCP, or static. I have, typically, did a static IP=E2=
=80=99ing for public &amp; VIPs.</p><p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;</p><p class=
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