RE: Accidental Use of Oracle Active Data Guard
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2016 10:28:36 -0800
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Sorry, I had to get on the road for a bit. I asked you to read the licensing agreements, so let me help you here
http://www.oracle.com/us/corporate/pricing/databaselicensing-070584.pdf
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/licenses/standard-license-152015.html
“Subject to the full terms of the OTN License Agreement, this limited license allows the user to develop applications using the licensed products as long as such applications have not been used for any data processing, business, commercial, or production purposes.”
I am not a lawyer and I did not stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night J, but I can read plain English and I have negotiated enough contracts over the last 23 years with multiple Chief Legal Counsels to understand that copying a database from prod to development by any means so that you can continue development on that app that is being used in prod is a license violation by that sentence above.
Then you have the next statement in the licensing agreement
“Test Environment: All programs used in a test environment must be licensed under an OMA, OLSA, or other appropriate Oracle (or Oracle authorized reseller) license agreement”.
You can claim that you are only doing development on something but if you do not have a test and dev environment separate then the licensing folks will consider it to be test also and it would be a license violation if the app hadn’t made it to production yet. Also you must be very careful here relative that no portion of the app (think reusable libraries) is being used in your production environments or your app from a services perspective is not touching other apps that are in production use. Just for the sake of lawyers think in terms of are you using the a single DNS/AD server for prod and development that under a total application perspective could be considered the app is in prod.
Then there are support agreements and your base license MSA and their licensing sentences that we will skip for now.
I have seen too much in this space. This is why when I worked at Amazon and a variety of other customers that before we downloaded Oracle software to test with to see how it worked and if we wanted to buy it, we would go through legal counsel to negotiate a contract with Oracle on the use of their software for a specific limited period of time without charge because in most cases besides using canned benchmarks we wanted to actually develop/test with the real production applications to test the features. Once you are a customer of Oracle or really any software vendor there are many places for you to trip over licensing issues and in most cases that trip is because of us technical people doing something we shouldn’t.
Matthew Parker
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From: Malden Gogala [mailto:gogala.mladen_at_gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 5:45 AM
To: Dimensional DBA
Cc: oracle-l_at_freelists.org
Subject: Re: Accidental Use of Oracle Active Data Guard
Is anything I said inaccurate?
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On Feb 10, 2016, at 8:35 AM, Dimensional DBA <dimensional.dba_at_comcast.net> wrote:
It is recommendations like this, trying to skirt Oracle licensing that will cause a license audit for a company and makes it harder for companies who make simple mistakes versus willful mistakes to deal with Oracle LMS.
You really should read the Oracle licensing document for software downloads from OTN/Oracle.com and read the oracle licensing documents relative to customers who own licenses versus simply being the single developer in the wild downloading software to learn or do development on while not owning any licenses.
Your activities as an individual in a company and using any company equipment for these activities puts the company at risk and makes life worse for us in the Oracle Community.
Matthew Parker
Chief Technologist
Dimensional DBA
425-891-7934 (cell)
D&B 047931344
CAGE 7J5S7 Dimensional.dba_at_comcast.net
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From: oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org [mailto:oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org] On Behalf Of Mladen Gogala
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 5:02 AM
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Subject: Re: Accidental Use of Oracle Active Data Guard
On 02/10/2016 07:42 AM, John Hallas wrote:
How true that is.
It is often very difficult to work out what we have got and who controls the licenses.
The best site as regards license management (and many other things) I worked at had a very simple rule – if a server was not listed on a central spreadsheet which was managed by Purchasing then you could not install any Oracle software on there.
It did not matter how much anybody shouted or how important the project was – that was the rule.
John
www.jhdba.wordpress.com
From: kathy duret [mailto:katpopins21_at_yahoo.com]
Where I have seen it fall down is that management doesn't always involve and/or communicate what is licensed effectively to staff.
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Another good trick to remember is that you have the right to use database 30 days for free, as a trial license. Consequently, if you keep re-creating your development database every 30 days, using some form of "duplicate database", you don't have to pay for the license. That is where SAN snapshot technology pays off.
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