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From: Karl Arao <karlarao@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2014 16:07:06 -0500
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I remember emc acquired scaleio for this converged storage, I would say a
competitor to nutanix.
BTW, some of the co-founders of nutanix are ex oracle who worked on the
exadata platform. I can't remember how I got that info maybe on some of
their tech webinars.

Once you get a POC of nutanix, maybe you can SLOB it then let us know how
it goes ;)


-Karl


On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 3:38 PM, Jeremy Schneider <
jeremy.schneider@ardentperf.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 11:28 AM, max scalf <oracle.blog3@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Our company is looking into moving towards converged platform instead of
> integrated platform(like exadata i think?).  I just wanted to reach out to
> the oracle list community and see if any one run oracle DB on nutanix
> converged platform, if so what are the pro and cons?
>
> I don't have any experience with nunatix but it looks interesting from a
> quick glance over their website.  Actually the idea of
> software-managed local data vs traditional SAN is very similar to exadata.
> However nunatix adds some additional layers with virtualization and dedupe
> and tiered I/O (flash, local, remote).  Reminds me a little of nimble
> storage but with an integrated compute tier - neat. the biggest risk is
> simply that Oracle software just isn't optimized for this kind of platform.
> For example: the database optimizer calculated and uses systems stats,
> including I/O performance data - and it does not expect this I/O speed to
> jump all over while the underlying platform moves data between remote disk,
> local disk and local flash.  Database performance could therefore be highly
> unpredictable and difficult to troubleshoot.
>
> Personally I'd be hesitant for larger workloads but it could be a great
> win for consolidating lots of smaller workloads.  With the list of clients
> on their website, there *must* be someone running oracle on nunatix who
> just isn't speaking up on the list.  :)   On the other hand, their market
> niche might be something else (big data?) and you might be an early adopter
> of running oracle on this platform... If so, then please let us know how it
> goes!
>
> -J
>
> --
> http://about.me/jeremy_schneider
>
>
>


-- 
Karl Arao
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I remember emc acquired scaleio for this converged storage=
, I would say a competitor to nutanix.=C2=A0<div>BTW, some of the co-founde=
rs of nutanix are ex oracle who worked on the exadata platform. I can&#39;t=
 remember how I got that info maybe on some of their tech webinars.=C2=A0</=
div><div><br></div><div>Once you get a POC of nutanix, maybe you can SLOB i=
t then let us know how it goes ;)=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div><br></div>=
<div><br></div><div>-Karl</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div=
></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue=
, Sep 9, 2014 at 3:38 PM, Jeremy Schneider <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D=
"mailto:jeremy.schneider@ardentperf.com" target=3D"_blank">jeremy.schneider=
@ardentperf.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" =
style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><di=
v dir=3D"ltr"><span class=3D"">On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 11:28 AM, max scalf &=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:oracle.blog3@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">oracle.blog3=
@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Our company is looking into movin=
g towards converged platform instead of integrated platform(like exadata i =
think?). =C2=A0I just wanted to reach out to the oracle list community and =
see if any one run oracle DB on nutanix converged platform, if so what are =
the pro and cons?<br><div><br></div></span><div>I don&#39;t have any experi=
ence with nunatix but it looks interesting from a quick glance over their w=
ebsite. =C2=A0Actually the idea of software-managed=C2=A0local=C2=A0data vs=
 traditional SAN=C2=A0is very similar to exadata. However nunatix adds some=
 additional layers with virtualization and dedupe and tiered I/O (flash, lo=
cal, remote). =C2=A0Reminds me a little of nimble storage but with an integ=
rated compute tier - neat. the biggest risk is simply that Oracle software =
just isn&#39;t optimized for this kind of platform. For example: the databa=
se optimizer calculated and uses systems stats, including I/O performance d=
ata - and it does not expect this I/O speed to jump all over while the unde=
rlying platform moves data between remote disk, local disk and local flash.=
 =C2=A0Database performance could therefore be highly unpredictable and dif=
ficult to troubleshoot.<div><br></div><div>Personally I&#39;d be hesitant f=
or larger workloads but it could be a great win for consolidating lots of s=
maller workloads. =C2=A0With the list of clients on their website, there *m=
ust* be someone running oracle on nunatix who just isn&#39;t speaking up on=
 the list. =C2=A0:) =C2=A0 On the other hand, their market niche might be s=
omething else (big data?) and you might be an early adopter of running orac=
le on this platform... If so, then please let us know how it goes!</div><di=
v><br></div><div>-J</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br clear=3D"all"><div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr">--<br><a href=3D"http://about.me/jeremy_schneider" style=
=3D"color:rgb(17,85,204)" target=3D"_blank">http://about.me/jeremy_schneide=
r</a><br></div></div>
<br><br></div></div></div>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br>Karl Arao<br=
>Blog:=C2=A0<a href=3D"http://karlarao.wordpress.com" target=3D"_blank">kar=
larao.wordpress.com</a><br>Wiki:=C2=A0<a href=3D"http://karlarao.tiddlyspot=
.com" target=3D"_blank">karlarao.tiddlyspot.com</a><div>Twitter:=C2=A0<a hr=
ef=3D"http://twitter.com/karlarao" target=3D"_blank">@karlarao</a></div>
</div>

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