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Subject: Re: nutanix
From: Jeremy Schneider <jeremy.schneider@ardentperf.com>
To: max scalf <oracle.blog3@gmail.com>
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On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 11:28 AM, max scalf <oracle.blog3@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Our company is looking into moving towards converged platform instead of
integrated platform(like exadata i think?).  I just wanted to reach out to
the oracle list community and see if any one run oracle DB on nutanix
converged platform, if so what are the pro and cons?

I don't have any experience with nunatix but it looks interesting from a
quick glance over their website.  Actually the idea of
software-managed local data vs traditional SAN is very similar to exadata.
However nunatix adds some additional layers with virtualization and dedupe
and tiered I/O (flash, local, remote).  Reminds me a little of nimble
storage but with an integrated compute tier - neat. the biggest risk is
simply that Oracle software just isn't optimized for this kind of platform.
For example: the database optimizer calculated and uses systems stats,
including I/O performance data - and it does not expect this I/O speed to
jump all over while the underlying platform moves data between remote disk,
local disk and local flash.  Database performance could therefore be highly
unpredictable and difficult to troubleshoot.

Personally I'd be hesitant for larger workloads but it could be a great win
for consolidating lots of smaller workloads.  With the list of clients on
their website, there *must* be someone running oracle on nunatix who just
isn't speaking up on the list.  :)   On the other hand, their market niche
might be something else (big data?) and you might be an early adopter of
running oracle on this platform... If so, then please let us know how it
goes!

-J

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<div dir=3D"ltr">On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 11:28 AM, max scalf &lt;<a href=3D"=
mailto:oracle.blog3@gmail.com">oracle.blog3@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>&gt=
;<br>&gt; Our company is looking into moving towards converged platform ins=
tead of integrated platform(like exadata i think?). =A0I just wanted to rea=
ch out to the oracle list community and see if any one run oracle DB on nut=
anix converged platform, if so what are the pro and cons?<br><div><br></div=
><div>I don&#39;t have any experience with nunatix but it looks interesting=
 from a quick glance over their website. =A0Actually the idea of software-m=
anaged=A0local=A0data vs traditional SAN=A0is very similar to exadata. Howe=
ver nunatix adds some additional layers with virtualization and dedupe and =
tiered I/O (flash, local, remote). =A0Reminds me a little of nimble storage=
 but with an integrated compute tier - neat. the biggest risk is simply tha=
t Oracle software just isn&#39;t optimized for this kind of platform. For e=
xample: the database optimizer calculated and uses systems stats, including=
 I/O performance data - and it does not expect this I/O speed to jump all o=
ver while the underlying platform moves data between remote disk, local dis=
k and local flash. =A0Database performance could therefore be highly unpred=
ictable and difficult to troubleshoot.<div><br></div><div>Personally I&#39;=
d be hesitant for larger workloads but it could be a great win for consolid=
ating lots of smaller workloads. =A0With the list of clients on their websi=
te, there *must* be someone running oracle on nunatix who just isn&#39;t sp=
eaking up on the list. =A0:) =A0 On the other hand, their market niche migh=
t be something else (big data?) and you might be an early adopter of runnin=
g oracle on this platform... If so, then please let us know how it goes!</d=
iv><div><br></div><div>-J</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br clear=3D"all"=
><div><div dir=3D"ltr">--<br><a href=3D"http://about.me/jeremy_schneider" s=
tyle=3D"color:rgb(17,85,204)" target=3D"_blank">http://about.me/jeremy_schn=
eider</a><br></div></div>
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