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No it will not work.=C2=A0 Pre-12c agents cannot communicate with a 12c OMS=
.=C2=A0=20

=C2=A0

Pete



Pete Sharman
Principal Product Manager
Enterprise Manager Product Suite
33 Benson Crescent CALWELL ACT 2905 AUSTRALIA

Phone: HYPERLINK "tel:+61262924095"+61262924095 | | Fax: HYPERLINK "fax:+61=
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=C2=A0 _____ =C2=A0

"Controlling developers is like herding cats."

Kevin Loney, Oracle DBA Handbook

=C2=A0

"Oh no, it's not, it's much harder than that!"

Bruce Pihlamae, long term Oracle DBA

=C2=A0 _____ =C2=A0

=C2=A0

From: max scalf [mailto:oracle.blog3@gmail.com]=20
Sent: Sunday, May 4, 2014 6:17 AM
To: oracle-l@freelists.org
Subject: oem 12c on hp-ux pa-risc 11.11

=C2=A0

Hello List,

=C2=A0

I have a question and maybe some of you guys are already doing this(or not)=
. =C2=A0We have some old HP-UX PA Risc(11.11) and i want them monitored wit=
h our new OEM 12c(12.1.0.3). =C2=A0Looking at the certification matrix look=
s like 11.11 is not supported with the 12c agent. =C2=A0

=C2=A0

I have one thing i have done in the past, where i wanted to monitor our old=
 pa-risc(11.11) box from Grid control version 11.1.0.7. =C2=A0I was unable =
to deploy 11g agent as well(due to support issue, pa-risc 11g agent only su=
pported =C2=A0pa-risc 11.23 and 11.31). =C2=A0So as a worked around I deplo=
yed 10.2.0.5 agent on that old pa-risc 11.11 box and got it connected to 11=
g grid control. =C2=A0

=C2=A0

Most of these old box run DB version 10.2.0.4 or 10.2.0.5. =C2=A0I am not s=
ure if i can still do this with OEM 12c? =C2=A0where i can either re-deploy=
(or point them to 12c OEM) 10.2.0.5 agent on these old 11.11 box. =C2=A0Obv=
iously i am sure you guys are probably asking why are you asking here, why =
not just try it and find out yourself as you have already done this before.

=C2=A0

That's were i am stuck. =C2=A0Our team/Management do not want me to do that=
 and they are okay with using 2 different OEM(11g grid of all these old box=
 and 12c for newer version). =C2=A0I think if we can make this work, then w=
e do not have to deal with 2 different OEM versions and everything will be =
under one umbrella. =C2=A0 =C2=A0

=C2=A0

I just wanted to post this out here and see what people have to say, so at =
the least i can point our team/management to right direction. =C2=A0

=C2=A0

Is anyone monitoring there old hp-ux pa-risc 11.11 box with OEM 12c, if so =
what are you doing?

=C2=A0

Any pointers would be appreciated. =C2=A0

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 it will not work.=C2=A0 Pre-12c agents cannot communicate with a 12c OMS.=
=C2=A0 <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:=
10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></=
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font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Pete<o:p></o:p></span></p>=
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auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=3DEN-AU style=3D'font-size:10.0=
pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#666666'>Pete Sharman<br>Princip=
al Product Manager<br>Enterprise Manager Product Suite<br>33 Benson Crescen=
t CALWELL ACT 2905 AUSTRALIA<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal styl=
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95</span></a> | | Fax: <a href=3D"fax:+61262925183"><span style=3D'color:bl=
ack'>+61262925183</span></a> | | Mobile: </span><u><span lang=3DEN-AU style=
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4443449</span></u><span lang=3DEN-AU style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=
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l><span lang=3DEN-AU style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-s=
erif";color:#1F497D'>&quot;Controlling developers is like herding cats.&quo=
t;</span><span lang=3DEN-AU style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",=
"sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><spa=
n lang=3DEN-AU style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";=
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=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#0070C0'>Bruce=
 Pihlamae, long term Oracle DBA<o:p></o:p></span></p><div class=3DMsoNormal=
 align=3Dcenter style=3D'text-align:center'><span lang=3DEN-AU style=3D'fon=
t-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><hr size=3D3=
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>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span style=3D'font-size:11=
.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style=3D'fon=
t-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> max scalf [mailto:oracle=
.blog3@gmail.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, May 4, 2014 6:17 AM<br><b>To:</b=
> oracle-l@freelists.org<br><b>Subject:</b> oem 12c on hp-ux pa-risc 11.11<=
o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p clas=
s=3DMsoNormal>Hello List,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbs=
p;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I have a question and maybe som=
e of you guys are already doing this(or not). &nbsp;We have some old HP-UX =
PA Risc(11.11) and i want them monitored with our new OEM 12c(12.1.0.3). &n=
bsp;Looking at the certification matrix looks like 11.11 is not supported w=
ith the 12c agent. &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:=
p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I have one thing i have d=
one in the past, where i wanted to monitor our old pa-risc(11.11) box from =
Grid control version 11.1.0.7. &nbsp;I was unable to deploy 11g agent as we=
ll(due to support issue, pa-risc 11g agent only supported &nbsp;pa-risc 11.=
23 and 11.31). &nbsp;So as a worked around I deployed 10.2.0.5 agent on tha=
t old pa-risc 11.11 box and got it connected to 11g grid control. &nbsp;<o:=
p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div=
><p class=3DMsoNormal>Most of these old box run DB version 10.2.0.4 or 10.2=
.0.5. &nbsp;I am not sure if i can still do this with OEM 12c? &nbsp;where =
i can either re-deploy(or point them to 12c OEM) 10.2.0.5 agent on these ol=
d 11.11 box. &nbsp;Obviously i am sure you guys are probably asking why are=
 you asking here, why not just try it and find out yourself as you have alr=
eady done this before.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&=
nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>That's were i am stuck. &nbs=
p;Our team/Management do not want me to do that and they are okay with usin=
g 2 different OEM(11g grid of all these old box and 12c for newer version).=
 &nbsp;I think if we can make this work, then we do not have to deal with 2=
 different OEM versions and everything will be under one umbrella. &nbsp; &=
nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></=
div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I just wanted to post this out here and see w=
hat people have to say, so at the least i can point our team/management to =
right direction. &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Is anyone monitoring there =
old hp-ux pa-risc 11.11 box with OEM 12c, if so what are you doing?<o:p></o=
:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p c=
lass=3DMsoNormal>Any pointers would be appreciated. &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></=
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