RE: training for new DBA's

From: Dave Morgan <>
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 10:11:10 -0700
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> Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2014 09:27:07 -0500
> From: Ram Srinivasan <>
> All:
> This situation occurred exactly 2 years ago at my place. Let me explain
> this.
> One new SA took over as SA Team Lead, and she wanted to show off her
> powers. So one day, without telling anyone, she revoked the root access to
> all the DBAs in one swoop. The next day I was installing some PSU patch,


> In my opinion, the DBAs should have access to root, and at the same time
> DBAs should not misuse this power by changing the kernel parameters, and
> other system parameters without consulting the SAs.

I totally disagree, even though we have root in over 50% of our clients. You are a DBA not a sysadmin. If you have poor relations or receive poor service from the sysadmins then fix that problem, it is the root cause.

An example, sysadmins are frustrated because I keep calling them to install packages I need (and were on a list I supplied them). I am given root without any warnings. I do my installs, install oracle, create a db and configure the machine.

Then I do what any good sysadmin does, make sure the machine will stand up after an outage. I execute "init 6" and contact the sysadmins to tell them I am finished.

At that time I am told "DO NOT REBOOT"

Someone had to drive 150 km (90 mi) one way to push the little red button.


Dave Morgan
Senior Consultant, 1001111 Alberta Limited
403 399 2442
Received on Mon Feb 10 2014 - 18:11:10 CET

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