Received: (qmail 26072 invoked from network); 29 Jun 2012 13:05:21 -0500 Received: from freelists-180.iquest.net (HELO turing.freelists.org) (206.53.239.180) by static-ip-85-25-126-90.inaddr.ip-pool.com with SMTP; 29 Jun 2012 13:05:17 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 33EB8ED943F; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 14:05:14 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1340993114; bh=h06C4M+SuC8+pu6ykmRN3e+xdEXdwlpIJ52U9zqn eTY=; h=From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:References:In-Reply-To: Content-type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version:Sender: Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe: List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=Ikko84ljwAV12nm3zASCkCb9qdxXS 618qW8ExH90eAp0WyIAbg/aRIsKSPHaNOi2VPuou9YX0jRx/A2E2iDzxdDh2gXDSX1D nzvPt9PYxzoo8SL54LwjRa6NehCr8dH1VBoaC8RLKcCZAtySU4HPd+AE59/tn7PdiaA uBUuyb7U= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nA+nEHXKI98e; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 14:05:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 79B3FED9419; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 14:04:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list oracle-l); Fri, 29 Jun 2012 14:03:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id EBA35ED93F0 for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 14:03:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id phmZ4uifSWvc for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 14:03:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ondar.cablelabs.com (ondar.cablelabs.com [192.160.73.61]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 7F706ED923C for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 14:03:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kyzyl.cablelabs.com (kyzyl [10.253.0.7]) by ondar.cablelabs.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5TI3iUs027700; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 12:03:44 -0600 Received: from srvxchg.cablelabs.com (10.5.0.15) by kyzyl.cablelabs.com (F-Secure/fsigk_smtp/407/kyzyl.cablelabs.com); Fri, 29 Jun 2012 12:03:44 -0600 (MDT) X-Virus-Status: clean(F-Secure/fsigk_smtp/407/kyzyl.cablelabs.com) Received: from srvxchg.cablelabs.com ([10.5.0.15]) by srvxchg ([10.5.0.15]) with mapi; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 12:03:44 -0600 From: Jackie Brock To: "dkenlwork@gmail.com" , "Oracle-L@freelists.org" Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 12:03:43 -0600 Subject: RE: Alternatives to OEM Diagnostic/Tuning Packs Thread-Topic: Alternatives to OEM Diagnostic/Tuning Packs Message-ID: <3C0068AB22D70B4DA32B9A2A965968C78E195BBECF@srvxchg> References: <002701cd5586$77adcd30$67096790$@gmail.com> <01c401cd561f$740daa80$5c28ff80$@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <01c401cd561f$740daa80$5c28ff80$@gmail.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Approved: ondar X-archive-position: 43548 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: J.Brock@cablelabs.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: J.Brock@cablelabs.com List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: oracle-l X-List-ID: oracle-l List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: oracle-l TOAD gives you the option of using them or not. -----Original Message----- From: oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of D Kenl Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 11:49 AM To: Oracle-L@freelists.org Subject: RE: Alternatives to OEM Diagnostic/Tuning Packs Thanks for all the great responses! I definitely had a concern about 3rd-party products still using the tuning packs, as I noticed that at least Toad and Ion explicitly state that they do. Will definitely check that out when looking in more depth at the products. Deborah -- http://www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l -- http://www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l