Received: (qmail 20184 invoked from network); 18 Oct 2011 07:40:15 -0500 Received: from freelists-180.iquest.net (HELO turing.freelists.org) (206.53.239.180) by static-ip-85-25-126-90.inaddr.ip-pool.com with SMTP; 18 Oct 2011 07:40:11 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 950E8E43B02; Tue, 18 Oct 2011 08:40:10 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freelists.org; s=turing; t=1318941610; bh=7A0RglguHQ2QsP1VQpfhYPSEcjBnMKpXrykK/fy7 +Ek=; h=Message-Id:Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To: Mime-Version:Content-type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Sender: Reply-To:List-help:List-unsubscribe:List-Id:List-subscribe: List-owner:List-post:List-archive; b=w6BQlsMHFWS+8EXHP0APDRV/xsvN0 L3CM39hPQ41bz6A4Y/o2ZgND4Q+WGc57wEy6u+B4Csc5MQIagFIYDUnfCQ48aSdVLs+ +DQNbaDjToh5+oRNFpHqLixc+XZKbKaHnIRYBtGWaJQAi9g56dA5QWgrymoq9bwTAAF vhzHmWQs= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Md+Y9jWqb1MC; Tue, 18 Oct 2011 08:40:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 634AAE43AE0; Tue, 18 Oct 2011 08:39:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list oracle-l); Tue, 18 Oct 2011 08:38:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 87215E43ADD; Tue, 18 Oct 2011 08:38:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bUTLZPKr0bfp; Tue, 18 Oct 2011 08:38:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from groupwise.gcrta.org (groupwise.gcrta.org [70.238.103.170]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 48597E43ADA; Tue, 18 Oct 2011 08:38:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gwdb-MTA by groupwise.gcrta.org with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 18 Oct 2011 08:38:33 -0400 Message-Id: <4E9D3B060200000B004DD823@groupwise.gcrta.org> Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 08:38:30 -0400 From: "Jeffrey Beckstrom" To: ,, Cc: "oracle-l@freelists.org" Subject: Re: Oracle Grid... ahem Cloud Control 12c References: <4241feff-e0ae-415f-a7ed-d467c66b96d3@default> <4E9D5801.4060904@the-playground.de> In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-archive-position: 39326 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: JBECKSTROM@gcrta.org Precedence: normal Reply-To: JBECKSTROM@gcrta.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: oracle-l X-List-ID: oracle-l List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: oracle-l When we recently upgraded 10g to 11g Grid Control, we did it as a brand new install. Glad we did since it took us a over two weeks to get a clean install. We will probable do the same when we elect to go to 12C. Jeffrey Beckstrom Database Administrator Greater Cleveland Regional Transit Authority Information Systems 1240 W. 6th Street Cleveland, Ohio 44113 >>> 10/18/11 8:11 AM >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Martin, thats what they are going to do here, full brand-new install for 12c oem. joe From: Martin Bach To: "oracle-l@freelists.org" Date: 10/18/2011 06:43 AM Subject: Re: Oracle Grid... ahem Cloud Control 12c Sent by: oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org Very odd characters in my list post-not sure where they come from. Sending again with a different email client: I'm finding it very interesting that so many of you on this list opt to upgrade their management servers. At my current site we are evaluating if we shouldn't forget about the current deployment and use the 12c upgrade to get do a tech refresh. New OMS, new load balancers, new database (everything). The risk of doing so is considered less than with an upgrade. For those going for the migration from 11.1 or even 10.2, would you mind sharing your reasons for the upgrade? How many targets do people monitor? Best regards, Martin Bach -- Martin Bach Consulting http://martincarstenbach.wordpress.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/martincarstenbach -- http://www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l -- http://www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l -- http://www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l