Re: CEO's head in the Cloud

From: Thomas Roach <troach_at_gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 22:35:44 -0400
Message-ID: <AANLkTikKGQXdBG_gyI9DFZ0yRwzJNKA4fqwNrxbgZWHd_at_mail.gmail.com>

Chet, good link. The costs vary for EC2. For a small instance it's in the 10 cents per hours range. I looked at EC2 pricing just now and it seems like they are becoming more flexible in their pricing model. At the end of the day Amazon is renting you space on their grid. You can build your own virtualization cluster or piggy back on theirs.

I guess it can be akin to a rental car. If you need to go to Disney World and you want to fit 9 people in a car for a day and you only have room for 4 in the one you own, then it's cheaper to go get a rental car instead of buy one. If you are a family with 9 kids, and you need the capacity everyday it's cheaper to buy the car than rent the car. When you buy, you tend to be very specific about your needs. When you rent, you sometimes are willing to take whatever car they have that will hold 9 people (within reason). With the "public" clouds you still have fewer options. For example Amazon's biggest box looks like it only gives you 4 cores (2 EC equivalent) and 15GB of RAM. (Why not 16? Their memory across the board is not a clean 2^2) The graphs look totally different between running things in the public cloud (rent) versus owning in the private cloud (buy). At some point they will intersect. In some circumstances renting/leasing makes sense. In others buying does. It is also much faster to rent a car then to buy one. Same thing with employees/contractors (labor). Some companies like getting (renting) contractors, some like hiring(buying) employees. It just depends on what your needs our and what makes the most economic sense. To me it's just another option.

On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 5:13 PM, chet justice <chet.justice_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> There are indeed some great use cases for utilizing the cloud. This
> article, *I bought my own server for $1.02 (USD!)* (
> http://www.dannorris.com/2009/01/16/i-bought-my-own-server-for-102-usd/) by
> Mr. Dan Norris really brought home the value to me.
>
> chet
>
> On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 3:23 PM, <Joel.Patterson_at_crowley.com> wrote:
>
>> I went to an oracle security course at oracle in Orlando, and the
>> instructor logged us on to VM images he kept in an amazon cloud. He
>> claimed it came down to about $1.00/per student per hour….
>>
>>
>>
>> Just being a messenger, but like they say, it depends. Start with a new
>> image everytime… small simple small database… and it seems as though that
>> was a cost effective application of the cloud if what he said is indeed the
>> whole cost.
>>
>>
>>
>> Joel Patterson
>> Database Administrator
>> 904 727-2546
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>> oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org] *On Behalf Of *Guillermo Alan Bort
>> *Sent:* Thursday, June 03, 2010 11:31 AM
>> *To:* jwilton_at_bluegecko.net
>> *Cc:* mark.powell2_at_hp.com; oracle-l
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: CEO's head in the Cloud
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>> but is cloud really more cost effective? and what are the reasons it is
>> cost effective?
>> Alan.-
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 11:20 AM, Jeremiah Wilton <jwilton_at_bluegecko.net>
>> wrote:
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>> On Jun 3, 2010, at 5:42 AM, "Powell, Mark" <mark.powell2_at_hp.com> wrote:
>>
>> If you have to give up control of what versions of software you run then I
>> do not see how you could even consider making such a migration.
>>
>>
>>
>> Who says you have to give up control of software versions? On most IaaS
>> cloud platforms (including Amazon), you can run any Linux or Windows, and
>> any software on top of that you want. I'm not sure what restriction you are
>> referring to.
>>
>> Yes cloud is an annoying buzzword. It is also an actual real thing that
>> does stuff.
>>
>>
>>
>> Jeremiah Wilton
>> Blue Gecko, Inc.
>> http://www.bluegecko.net
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