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From: patrick obrien <po04541@yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: flash it back then roll it forward(pitr)
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ALTER DATABASE OPEN READ ONLY

thank you!




--- On Wed, 3/3/10, D'Hooge Freek <Freek.DHooge@uptime.be> wrote:

From: D'Hooge Freek <Freek.DHooge@uptime.be>
Subject: RE: flash it back then roll it forward(pitr)
To: "po04541@yahoo.com" <po04541@yahoo.com>, "pobrien@controller.state.nv.u=
s" <pobrien@controller.state.nv.us>, "ORACLE-L" <oracle-l@freelists.org>, "=
Lee.Robertson@acxiom.com" <Lee.Robertson@acxiom.com>
Date: Wednesday, March 3, 2010, 2:32 PM

Patrick,

Jason and I already told you that you can't do a rollforward when you have =
opened the database in r/w because you then need to open the database with =
resetlogs (the same as with an incomplete restore).
You can however open the flashbacked database in read only mode, shutdown i=
t again, mount it and then do a rollforward.

=C2=A0
Freek D'Hooge
Uptime
Oracle Database Administrator
email: freek.dhooge@uptime.be
tel +32(0)3 451 23 82
http://www.uptime.be=0A
disclaimer: www.uptime.be/disclaimer


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From: oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org] =
On Behalf Of patrick obrien
Sent: woensdag 3 maart 2010 19:06
To: pobrien@controller.state.nv.us; ORACLE-L; Lee.Robertson@acxiom.com
Subject: RE: flash it back then roll it forward(pitr)

Lee,
I had to do a reset unless I wanted to use a backup control file which, I d=
id not want to go there...

SQL> FLASHBACK DATABASE TO TIMESTAMP timestamp'2010-03-02 10:13:40';

Flashback complete.

SQL> alter database open;
alter database open
*
ERROR at line 1:
ORA-01589: must use RESETLOGS or NORESETLOGS option for database open


SQL> alter database open noresetlogs;
alter database open noresetlogs
*
ERROR at line 1:
ORA-01610: recovery using the BACKUP CONTROLFILE option must be done


SQL> alter database open resetlogs;

Database altered.




--- On Wed, 3/3/10, Robertson Lee - lerobe <Lee.Robertson@acxiom.com> wrote=
:

From: Robertson Lee - lerobe <Lee.Robertson@acxiom.com>
Subject: RE: flash it back then roll it forward(pitr)
To: pobrien@controller.state.nv.us, "ORACLE-L" <oracle-l@freelists.org>
Date: Wednesday, March 3, 2010, 9:16 AM
I am thinking you shouldn=E2=80=99t have issued your resetlogs, however my =
knowledge of flashback stuff is limited to say the least =E2=98=B9=C2=A0 ??
________________________________________
From: oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org] =
On Behalf Of Patrick O'Brien
Sent: 03 March 2010 16:42
To: ORACLE-L
Subject: Re: flash it back then roll it forward(pitr)
=C2=A0
Jason,
Good to know about the flash forward until; thanks!

What commands/processes did you use?=20
This is what I did and I had problems. Any thoughts?=C2=A0=20


Shutdown immediate;
startup mount;
FLASHBACK DATABASE TO TIMESTAMP timestamp'2010-03-01 09:41:49';
alter database open resetlogs;


SQL> RECOVER database until time '2010-03-01:09:42:38';
ORA-00283: recovery session canceled due to errors
ORA-19907: recovery time or SCN does not belong to recovered incarnation
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
=C2=A0

--- On Wed, 3/3/10, jason arneil <jason.arneil@gmail.com> wrote:

From: jason arneil <jason.arneil@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: flash it back then roll it forward(pitr)
To: pobrien@controller.state.nv.us
Cc: "ORACLE-L" <oracle-l@freelists.org>
Date: Wednesday, March 3, 2010, 8:02 AM
Hello Patrick,

Been testing flashback a bit recently so when I saw your email thought
I would test. Tested this with 10.2.0.4 on linux, and yep you
definitely can flashback and then roll forward, I did a recover
database until change to roll forwards again.

As Freek pointed to open read-write a flashed back database you need a
resetlogs, but of course you can open read-only without this.

Once you have flashed back you can even use flashback database to
"flash forward" and undo your flashback.

jason.

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On 3 March 2010 15:29, Patrick O'Brien <pobrien@controller.state.nv.us> wro=
te:
> Hello Oracle users,
>
> is it possible to flashback a database then turn around and roll it forwa=
rd
> using a pitr process?
>
> thank you!
>
>
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<table cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0" ><tr><td valign=3D"=
top" style=3D"font: inherit;"><pre>ALTER DATABASE OPEN READ ONLY<br><br>tha=
nk you!<br><br><br></pre><br><br>--- On <b>Wed, 3/3/10, D'Hooge Freek <i>&l=
t;Freek.DHooge@uptime.be&gt;</i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style=3D"border-=
left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br=
>From: D'Hooge Freek &lt;Freek.DHooge@uptime.be&gt;<br>Subject: RE: flash i=
t back then roll it forward(pitr)<br>To: "po04541@yahoo.com" &lt;po04541@ya=
hoo.com&gt;, "pobrien@controller.state.nv.us" &lt;pobrien@controller.state.=
nv.us&gt;, "ORACLE-L" &lt;oracle-l@freelists.org&gt;, "Lee.Robertson@acxiom=
.com" &lt;Lee.Robertson@acxiom.com&gt;<br>Date: Wednesday, March 3, 2010, 2=
:32 PM<br><br><div class=3D"plainMail">Patrick,<br><br>Jason and I already =
told you that you can't do a rollforward when you have opened the database =
in r/w because you then need to open the database with resetlogs (the same =
as with
 an incomplete restore).<br>You can however open the flashbacked database i=
n read only mode, shutdown it again, mount it and then do a rollforward.<br=
><br>&nbsp;<br>Freek D'Hooge<br>Uptime<br>Oracle Database Administrator<br>=
email: <a ymailto=3D"mailto:freek.dhooge@uptime.be" href=3D"/mc/compose?to=
=3Dfreek.dhooge@uptime.be">freek.dhooge@uptime.be</a><br>tel +32(0)3 451 23=
 82<br><a href=3D"http://www.uptime.be" target=3D"_blank">http://www.uptime=
.be=0A</a><br>disclaimer: www.uptime.be/disclaimer<br><br><br>_____________=
___________________________<br>From: <a ymailto=3D"mailto:oracle-l-bounce@f=
reelists.org" href=3D"/mc/compose?to=3Doracle-l-bounce@freelists.org">oracl=
e-l-bounce@freelists.org</a> [mailto:<a ymailto=3D"mailto:oracle-l-bounce@f=
reelists.org" href=3D"/mc/compose?to=3Doracle-l-bounce@freelists.org">oracl=
e-l-bounce@freelists.org</a>] On Behalf Of patrick obrien<br>Sent: woensdag=
 3 maart 2010 19:06<br>To: <a ymailto=3D"mailto:pobrien@controller.state.nv=
.us" href=3D"/mc/compose?to=3Dpobrien@controller.state.nv.us">pobrien@contr=
oller.state.nv.us</a>; ORACLE-L; <a ymailto=3D"mailto:Lee.Robertson@acxiom.=
com" href=3D"/mc/compose?to=3DLee.Robertson@acxiom.com">Lee.Robertson@acxio=
m.com</a><br>Subject: RE: flash it back then roll it forward(pitr)<br><br>L=
ee,<br>I had to do a reset unless I wanted to use a backup control file whi=
ch, I did not want to go there...<br><br>SQL&gt; FLASHBACK DATABASE TO TIME=
STAMP
 timestamp'2010-03-02 10:13:40';<br><br>Flashback complete.<br><br>SQL&gt; =
alter database open;<br>alter database open<br>*<br>ERROR at line 1:<br>ORA=
-01589: must use RESETLOGS or NORESETLOGS option for database open<br><br><=
br>SQL&gt; alter database open noresetlogs;<br>alter database open noresetl=
ogs<br>*<br>ERROR at line 1:<br>ORA-01610: recovery using the BACKUP CONTRO=
LFILE option must be done<br><br><br>SQL&gt; alter database open resetlogs;=
<br><br>Database altered.<br><br><br><br><br>--- On Wed, 3/3/10, Robertson =
Lee - lerobe &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:Lee.Robertson@acxiom.com" href=3D"/mc=
/compose?to=3DLee.Robertson@acxiom.com">Lee.Robertson@acxiom.com</a>&gt; wr=
ote:<br><br>From: Robertson Lee - lerobe &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:Lee.Rober=
tson@acxiom.com" href=3D"/mc/compose?to=3DLee.Robertson@acxiom.com">Lee.Rob=
ertson@acxiom.com</a>&gt;<br>Subject: RE: flash it back then roll it forwar=
d(pitr)<br>To: <a ymailto=3D"mailto:pobrien@controller.state.nv.us"
 href=3D"/mc/compose?to=3Dpobrien@controller.state.nv.us">pobrien@controlle=
r.state.nv.us</a>, "ORACLE-L" &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:oracle-l@freelists.o=
rg" href=3D"/mc/compose?to=3Doracle-l@freelists.org">oracle-l@freelists.org=
</a>&gt;<br>Date: Wednesday, March 3, 2010, 9:16 AM<br>I am thinking you sh=
ouldn=E2=80=99t have issued your resetlogs, however my knowledge of flashba=
ck stuff is limited to say the least =E2=98=B9&nbsp; ??<br>________________=
________________________<br>From: <a ymailto=3D"mailto:oracle-l-bounce@free=
lists.org" href=3D"/mc/compose?to=3Doracle-l-bounce@freelists.org">oracle-l=
-bounce@freelists.org</a> [mailto:<a ymailto=3D"mailto:oracle-l-bounce@free=
lists.org" href=3D"/mc/compose?to=3Doracle-l-bounce@freelists.org">oracle-l=
-bounce@freelists.org</a>] On Behalf Of Patrick O'Brien<br>Sent: 03 March 2=
010 16:42<br>To: ORACLE-L<br>Subject: Re: flash it back then roll it forwar=
d(pitr)<br>&nbsp;<br>Jason,<br>Good to know about the flash forward until; =
thanks!<br><br>What
 commands/processes did you use? <br>This is what I did and I had problems.=
 Any thoughts?&nbsp; <br><br><br>Shutdown immediate;<br>startup mount;<br>F=
LASHBACK DATABASE TO TIMESTAMP timestamp'2010-03-01 09:41:49';<br>alter dat=
abase open resetlogs;<br><br><br>SQL&gt; RECOVER database until time '2010-=
03-01:09:42:38';<br>ORA-00283: recovery session canceled due to errors<br>O=
RA-19907: recovery time or SCN does not belong to recovered incarnation<br>=
&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;<br><br>--- On Wed, 3/3/10, jason arneil &lt;<a y=
mailto=3D"mailto:jason.arneil@gmail.com" href=3D"/mc/compose?to=3Djason.arn=
eil@gmail.com">jason.arneil@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br>From: jason arn=
eil &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:jason.arneil@gmail.com" href=3D"/mc/compose?to=
=3Djason.arneil@gmail.com">jason.arneil@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>Subject: Re: f=
lash it back then roll it forward(pitr)<br>To: <a ymailto=3D"mailto:pobrien=
@controller.state.nv.us"
 href=3D"/mc/compose?to=3Dpobrien@controller.state.nv.us">pobrien@controlle=
r.state.nv.us</a><br>Cc: "ORACLE-L" &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:oracle-l@freel=
ists.org" href=3D"/mc/compose?to=3Doracle-l@freelists.org">oracle-l@freelis=
ts.org</a>&gt;<br>Date: Wednesday, March 3, 2010, 8:02 AM<br>Hello Patrick,=
<br><br>Been testing flashback a bit recently so when I saw your email thou=
ght<br>I would test. Tested this with 10.2.0.4 on linux, and yep you<br>def=
initely can flashback and then roll forward, I did a recover<br>database un=
til change to roll forwards again.<br><br>As Freek pointed to open read-wri=
te a flashed back database you need a<br>resetlogs, but of course you can o=
pen read-only without this.<br><br>Once you have flashed back you can even =
use flashback database to<br>"flash forward" and undo your flashback.<br><b=
r>jason.<br><br>--<br><a href=3D"http://jarneil.wordpress.com" target=3D"_b=
lank">http://jarneil.wordpress.com=0A</a><br><br><br><br>On 3 March 2010 15=
:29, Patrick O'Brien &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:pobrien@controller.state.nv.u=
s" href=3D"/mc/compose?to=3Dpobrien@controller.state.nv.us">pobrien@control=
ler.state.nv.us</a>&gt; wrote:<br>&gt; Hello Oracle users,<br>&gt;<br>&gt; =
is it possible to flashback a database then turn around and roll it forward=
<br>&gt; using a pitr process?<br>&gt;<br>&gt; thank you!<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<b=
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