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I tried force a check point with 'alter system', this did update the scn
# in datafile header. I don't understand why those check point showing
in the alert log did not update the datafile header.

=20

From: Jiang, Lu=20
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 6:41 PM
To: 'Bobak, Mark'; oracle-l@freelists.org
Subject: RE: Incremental checkpoints and CHECKPOINT_CHANGE#

=20

Had checked the following and returned 'Not Active'. We only do backups
at full db level with rman during evenings.

=20

From: Bobak, Mark [mailto:Mark.Bobak@proquest.com]=20
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 6:39 PM
To: Jiang, Lu; oracle-l@freelists.org
Subject: RE: Incremental checkpoints and CHECKPOINT_CHANGE#

=20

Database being open and normal mode is fine, but datafiles could still
be in backup mode.

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What do you get from:

select * from v$backup where status=3D'ACTIVE';

??

=20

If that returns any rows, those files are in backup mode.

=20

-Mark

=20

From: Jiang, Lu [mailto:Lu.Jiang@umassmed.edu]=20
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 5:20 PM
To: Bobak, Mark; oracle-l@freelists.org
Subject: RE: Incremental checkpoints and CHECKPOINT_CHANGE#

=20

No. The database is open and normal mode.

=20

From: Bobak, Mark [mailto:Mark.Bobak@proquest.com]=20
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 5:12 PM
To: Jiang, Lu; oracle-l@freelists.org
Subject: RE: Incremental checkpoints and CHECKPOINT_CHANGE#

=20

Is the tablespace in backup mode?

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From: oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org
[mailto:oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Jiang, Lu
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 3:54 PM
To: oracle-l@freelists.org
Subject: Incremental checkpoints and CHECKPOINT_CHANGE#

=20

Hi DBA Gurus,

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Does anyone know why checkpoint scn does not write to datafile header in
the following scenario?

=20

Parameter   log_checkpoint_timeout  =3D 1200

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-- Incremental checkpoints show in alert.log:

=20

Wed Jan 13 13:47:43 2010

Incremental checkpoint up to RBA [0x79e.1cacf6.0], current log tail at
RBA [0x79e.1cb16a.0]

Wed Jan 13 14:07:43 2010

Incremental checkpoint up to RBA [0x79e.1cc865.0], current log tail at
RBA [0x79e.1ccd64.0]

Wed Jan 13 14:27:47 2010

Incremental checkpoint up to RBA [0x79e.1ceb74.0], current log tail at
RBA [0x79e.1d0193.0]

Wed Jan 13 14:47:47 2010

Incremental checkpoint up to RBA [0x79e.1d101b.0], current log tail at
RBA [0x79e.1d12e2.0]

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-- CHECKPOINT_CHANGE# has not been updated in v$datafile_header view, it
stays with yesterdays check point info:

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SQL> select distinct CHECKPOINT_CHANGE#, CHECKPOINT_TIME from
v$datafile_header;

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CHECKPOINT_CHANGE# CHECKPOINT_TIME

------------------ --------------------

         580705781 12-JAN-10

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Thanks,

Lu


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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>I tried force a check =
point with
'alter system', this did update the scn # in datafile header. I don't
understand why those check point showing in the alert log did not update =
the
datafile header.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<div>

<div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt =
0in 0in 0in'>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Jiang, Lu =
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 13, 2010 6:41 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Bobak, Mark'; oracle-l@freelists.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: Incremental checkpoints and =
CHECKPOINT_CHANGE#<o:p></o:p></span></p>

</div>

</div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Had checked the =
following and
returned 'Not Active'. We only do backups at full db level with rman =
during
evenings.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<div>

<div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt =
0in 0in 0in'>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Bobak, =
Mark
[mailto:Mark.Bobak@proquest.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 13, 2010 6:39 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Jiang, Lu; oracle-l@freelists.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: Incremental checkpoints and =
CHECKPOINT_CHANGE#<o:p></o:p></span></p>

</div>

</div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Database being open =
and normal
mode is fine, but datafiles could still be in backup =
mode.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>What do you get =
from:<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>select * from =
v$backup where
status=3D&#8217;ACTIVE&#8217;;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>??<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>If that returns any =
rows, those
files are in backup mode.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>-Mark<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Jiang, Lu
[mailto:Lu.Jiang@umassmed.edu] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 13, 2010 5:20 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Bobak, Mark; oracle-l@freelists.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: Incremental checkpoints and =
CHECKPOINT_CHANGE#<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>No. The database is =
open and
normal mode.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Bobak, =
Mark
[mailto:Mark.Bobak@proquest.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 13, 2010 5:12 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Jiang, Lu; oracle-l@freelists.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: Incremental checkpoints and =
CHECKPOINT_CHANGE#<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Is the tablespace in =
backup
mode?<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org] =
<b>On
Behalf Of </b>Jiang, Lu<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 13, 2010 3:54 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> oracle-l@freelists.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Incremental checkpoints and =
CHECKPOINT_CHANGE#<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#365F91'>Hi DBA =
Gurus,<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#365F91'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#365F91'>Does anyone know why =
checkpoint
scn does not write to datafile header in the following =
scenario?<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#365F91'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>Parameter &nbsp;&nbsp;<span =
style=3D'font-family:"Courier New"'>log_checkpoint_timeout&nbsp;
=3D 1200</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#365F91'>-- Incremental =
checkpoints show
in alert.log:<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>Wed Jan 13 13:47:43 2010<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>Incremental checkpoint up to RBA [0x79e.1cacf6.0], =
current
log tail at RBA [0x79e.1cb16a.0]<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>Wed Jan 13 14:07:43 2010<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>Incremental checkpoint up to RBA [0x79e.1cc865.0], =
current
log tail at RBA [0x79e.1ccd64.0]<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>Wed Jan 13 14:27:47 2010<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>Incremental checkpoint up to RBA [0x79e.1ceb74.0], =
current
log tail at RBA [0x79e.1d0193.0]<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>Wed Jan 13 14:47:47 2010<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>Incremental checkpoint up to RBA [0x79e.1d101b.0], =
current
log tail at RBA [0x79e.1d12e2.0]<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#365F91'>-- CHECKPOINT_CHANGE# =
has not
been updated in v$datafile_header view, it stays with yesterdays check =
point
info:<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Courier New"'>SQL&gt; =
select
distinct CHECKPOINT_CHANGE#, CHECKPOINT_TIME from =
v$datafile_header;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Courier =
New"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Courier =
New"'>CHECKPOINT_CHANGE#
CHECKPOINT_TIME<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Courier =
New"'>------------------
--------------------<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Courier =
New"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
580705781 12-JAN-10<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Courier =
New"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#365F91'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#365F91'>Lu<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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