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Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 19:24:15 +0100
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Subject: Re: of license portability, we get that now
From: Niall Litchfield <niall.litchfield@gmail.com>
To: Chris.Taylor@ingrambarge.com, bdbafh@gmail.com, 	oracle-l <oracle-l@freelists.org>
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Well as it happened I had invited an ms guy to our oracle on windows
sig to talk about ms virtualization. I was disappointed with the tech
content, but what was interesting to me was that ms *get*
virtualization in a way that oracle don't. So for example each new
product must work correctly in a virtual environment. The management
tools are being designed with virtual environments as a core
manageability target and so on. Microsoft.com runs on virtual servers
etc etc.  It's a bit like the management pack licensing - oracle seems
to imagine the world in fortune 500 terms only. Ms seems to see the
bigger picture. Anyway rant over.

On 5/13/09, Taylor, Chris David <Chris.Taylor@ingrambarge.com> wrote:
> Will Oracle follow?  Maybe...but not quickly.  Frustrating as heck
> watching mgmt sweat over Oracle licensing and contemplate moving to a
> different database because of the licensing complexity/costs.
>
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> Chris Taylor
> Sr. Oracle DBA
> Ingram Barge Company
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> http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&
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> "Yuen said Microsoft has liberalized licenses for its own server
> applications. Due to changes made late last year, Microsoft software
> such as Exchange, SQL Server, SharePoint, Windows Server and others can
> now be migrated from server to server without users violating their
> licenses, Yuen said.
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> The importance "of license portability, we get that now," Yuen said.
> That portability is true, even if VMs are being moved from server to
> server using VMware's V-Motion live migration tool.
>
> Microsoft will also now fully support applications running inside VMs
> from partners such as Novell Inc., Red Hat Inc. and Citrix Systems Inc.
> "If you have a Red Hat issue, we will attempt to solve it and then
> escalate it with Red Hat if we can't," he said."
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