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Thanks V much Zhu

My Questions in-laid below preceded by Qs ->

Cheers

________________________________
From: zhuchao@gmail.com [mailto:zhuchao@gmail.com]

If direct io is being used, the difference maybe less.
Qs 1 -> What do you mean by "the difference maybe less."?

Anyway I don't see any benefit using 1k/4k blocksize.
If you want best throughput, go with raw volumes.

Have done all tuning on hp kaio setup to maximize os capability?
Qs 2 -> Could you share some "tuning on hp kaio setup" please?

________________________________

HP who is partnering the Benchmark states - since Filesystems are being Mou=
nted with Direct I/O therefore 1K F.S. block size is preferred to 8K.

________________________________
From: zhuchao@gmail.com [mailto:zhuchao@gmail.com]
Of course set to 8k
________________________________
We are in the process of Setting up DB Server for an OLTP Banking Applicati=
on Benchchmark.

HP-UX B.11.31
system device block size(think this is the O.S. block size) =3D 1K
Base page size =3D 4K.
DB_block_size =3D 8K

Should the Filesystem (VXFS) Block Size be set to 1K, 4K or 8K? ... Persona=
lly I think it should be 4 K (i.e. Equal to the Page-size)


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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3D"#6600cc" face=3DArial><span
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u<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3D"#6600cc" face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#6600CC'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3D"#6600cc" face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#6600CC'>My Questions in-=
laid
below preceded by Qs -&gt;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3D"#6600cc" face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#6600CC'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3D"#6600cc" face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#6600CC'>Cheers<o:p></o:p=
></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-si=
ze:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=3D2
face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
zhuchao@gmail.com [mailto:zhuchao@gmail.com] <br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D=
'font-size:
12.0pt'>If direct io is being used, the difference maybe less.<font color=
=3Dnavy><span
style=3D'color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></span></font></p>

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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#6600CC;font-weight:bold'=
>Qs 1 -&gt;
What do you mean by &#8220;the difference maybe less.&#8221;?<o:p></o:p></s=
pan></font></b></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D=
'font-size:
12.0pt'><br>
Anyway I don't see any benefit using 1k/4k blocksize.<br>
If you want best throughput, go with raw volumes.<font color=3Dnavy><span
style=3D'color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D=
'font-size:
12.0pt'><br>
Have done all tuning on hp kaio setup to maximize os capability?<o:p></o:p>=
</span></font></p>

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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#6600CC;font-weight:bold'=
>Qs 2 -&gt;
Could you share some &#8220;tuning on hp kaio setup&#8221; please?<o:p></o:=
p></span></font></b></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3D"#6600cc" face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#6600CC'>HP who is partne=
ring
the Benchmark states - since Filesystems are being Mounted with <b><span
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Direct I/O</span></b> therefore 1K F.S. block si=
ze is
preferred to 8K.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span>=
</font></b><font
size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
zhuchao@gmail.com [mailto:zhuchao@gmail.com] <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D=
'font-size:
12.0pt'>Of course set to 8k<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3D"#6600cc" face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#6600CC'>We are in the pr=
ocess
of Setting up DB Server for an OLTP Banking Application Benchchmark.<o:p></=
o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3D"#6600cc" face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#6600CC'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p=
></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3D"#6600cc" face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#6600CC'>HP-UX B.<b><span
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>11.31</span></b><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3D"#6600cc" face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#6600CC'>system device bl=
ock
size(think this is the O.S. block size) =3D 1K<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3D"#6600cc" face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#6600CC'>Base page size =
=3D 4K.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3D"#6600cc" face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#6600CC'>DB_block_size =
=3D 8K<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#6600CC'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p=
></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3D"#6600cc" face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#6600CC'>Should the Files=
ystem
(VXFS) Block Size be set to <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>1K, 4K or 8=
K? &#8230;</span></b>
Personally I think it should be 4 K (i.e. Equal to the Page-size)<o:p></o:p=
></span></font></p>

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