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From: raja rao <raja4list@yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: startup takes long time on 10gR2.
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I found it.
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its becoz, of the databse strutp trigger which is pinning too many objects.


--- On Fri, 9/12/08, Johnson, William L (TEIS) <WLJohnson@tycoelectronics.c=
om> wrote:

From: Johnson, William L (TEIS) <WLJohnson@tycoelectronics.com>
Subject: RE: startup takes long time on 10gR2.
To: Amir.Hameed@xerox.com, raja4list@yahoo.com, oracle-l@freelists.org
Date: Friday, September 12, 2008, 6:35 PM








How many data files are in the database? =A0It has been a while, but we ran=
 into a problem where Oracle was checking on every data file and the startu=
p process was dragging while the check occurred. I apologize, but I can=92t=
 seem to find my notes with the details right now. =A0Maybe this will help =
focus where you are looking=85
=A0
This was for HP-UX, so it may not be apples-to-apples for Solaris=85
Bill
=A0
=A0




From: oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org] =
On Behalf Of Hameed, Amir
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 8:06 AM
To: raja4list@yahoo.com; oracle-l@freelists.org
Subject: RE: startup takes long time on 10gR2.
=A0
I am assuming that you are on Solaris 8? Is this true? If you truss you may=
 find that the process starting the database is waiting on "shmat" call.




From: oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org] =
On Behalf Of raja rao
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 11:27 PM
To: oracle-l@freelists.org
Subject: startup takes long time on 10gR2.







One of our test instances, the startup process is taking more time.

=A0

=A0

sga is ~2gb.

=A0

=A0

Total System Global Area 2130706432 bytes
Fixed Size=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 2031448 bytes
Variable Size=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 1140850856 bytes
Database Buffers=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 973078528 bytes
Redo Buffers=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 14745600 bytes

=A0

especially, the open phase=A0takes long time.(around 10 mins)

instance allocation and mount phase are quick.

=A0

=A0

Can someone help me, how to start research and reduce the time.

=A0

Thanks,

Raj
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<table cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0" ><tr><td valign=3D"=
top" style=3D"font: inherit;"><DIV>I found it.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>its becoz, of the databse strutp trigger which is pinning too many obj=
ects.</DIV>
<DIV><BR><BR>--- On <B>Fri, 9/12/08, Johnson, William L (TEIS) <I>&lt;WLJoh=
nson@tycoelectronics.com&gt;</I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(=
16,16,255) 2px solid">From: Johnson, William L (TEIS) &lt;WLJohnson@tycoele=
ctronics.com&gt;<BR>Subject: RE: startup takes long time on 10gR2.<BR>To: A=
mir.Hameed@xerox.com, raja4list@yahoo.com, oracle-l@freelists.org<BR>Date: =
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN style=
=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">How many data files a=
re in the database? &nbsp;It has been a while, but we ran into a problem wh=
ere Oracle was checking on every data file and the startup process was drag=
ging while the check occurred. I apologize, but I can=92t seem to find my n=
otes with the details right now. &nbsp;Maybe this will help focus where you=
 are looking=85</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN style=
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN style=
=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">This was for HP-UX, s=
o it may not be apples-to-apples for Solaris=85</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN style=
=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Bill</SPAN></FONT></D=
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oma"> oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org] =
<B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Hameed, Amir<B=
R><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Friday, September 1=
2, 2008 8:06 AM<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> raja=
4list@yahoo.com; oracle-l@freelists.org<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: b=
old">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE: startup takes long time on 10gR2.</SPAN></FONT=
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nd that the process starting the database is waiting on "shmat" call.</SPAN=
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D=
"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">One of our test instances, the startup process is taking =
more time.</SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D=
"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&nbsp;</SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D=
"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&nbsp;</SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D=
"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">sga is ~2gb.</SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D=
"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&nbsp;</SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D=
"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&nbsp;</SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D=
"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Total System Global Area 2130706432 bytes<BR>Fixed Size&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 2031448 bytes<BR>Variable Size&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 1140850856 bytes<BR>Databas=
e Buffers&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 973078528 b=
ytes<BR>Redo Buffers&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 14745600 bytes</SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D=
"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&nbsp;</SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D=
"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">especially, the open phase&nbsp;takes long time.(around 1=
0 mins)</SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D=
"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">instance allocation and mount phase are quick.</SPAN></FO=
NT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
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"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&nbsp;</SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
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"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&nbsp;</SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D=
"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Can someone help me, how to start research and reduce the=
 time.</SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D=
"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&nbsp;</SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D=
"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Thanks,</SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D=
"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Raj</SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></TD></TR=
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