Return-Path: Delivered-To: 2-oracle-l@orafaq.com Received: (qmail 17295 invoked from network); 30 Jan 2008 08:43:01 -0600 Received: from freelists-180.iquest.net (HELO turing.freelists.org) (206.53.239.180) by static-ip-69-64-49-119.inaddr.intergenia.de with SMTP; 30 Jan 2008 08:42:54 -0600 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 8BD947F10C3; Wed, 30 Jan 2008 09:42:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 25495-08; Wed, 30 Jan 2008 09:42:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id ED45E7F1215; Wed, 30 Jan 2008 09:42:52 -0500 (EST) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list oracle-l); Wed, 30 Jan 2008 08:54:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 88A847F1A30 for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2008 08:54:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 16649-05 for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2008 08:54:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from outbound2-wa4-R.bigfish.com (outbound-wa4.frontbridge.com [216.32.181.16]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D8D857F1A19 for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2008 08:54:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from outbound2-wa4.bigfish.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by outbound2-wa4-R.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 254994720C8 for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2008 13:54:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail38-wa4-R.bigfish.com (si1-wa4 [10.8.14.5]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by outbound2-wa4.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19E66AB006C for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2008 13:54:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail38-wa4 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail38-wa4-R.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0192E1A20455 for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2008 13:54:13 +0000 (UTC) X-BigFish: VP X-MS-Exchange-Organization-Antispam-Report: OrigIP: 12.23.250.36;Service: EHS Received: by mail38-wa4 (MessageSwitch) id 1201701252961770_18529; Wed, 30 Jan 2008 13:54:12 +0000 (UCT) Received: from spobmexc02.adprod.directory (smtp.riverbarges.com [12.23.250.36]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail38-wa4.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A56A5F100E6 for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2008 13:54:11 +0000 (UTC) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C86347.96C9662C" Subject: RE: SAN Recommendations - Fact Finding - Help Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 07:54:10 -0600 Message-ID: <17E4CDE8F84DC44A992E8C00767402E0860F41@spobmexc02.adprod.directory> In-Reply-To: <17E4CDE8F84DC44A992E8C00767402E0860F3F@spobmexc02.adprod.directory> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: SAN Recommendations - Fact Finding - Help References: <17E4CDE8F84DC44A992E8C00767402E0860F3F@spobmexc02.adprod.directory> From: "Taylor, Chris David" To: "oracle-l" X-archive-position: 5100 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: Chris.Taylor@ingrambarge.com Precedence: normal Reply-to: Chris.Taylor@ingrambarge.com List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: oracle-l X-List-ID: oracle-l List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: oracle-l X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain ------_=_NextPart_001_01C86347.96C9662C Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'd like to re-phrase this question. =20 Who out there is happy/ecstatic about their SAN solution? For those of you that fit this category, what SAN solution do you use? =20 Who out there is unhappy/sad about their SAN solution? For those of you in this category, what SAN solution do you (or did you) use? =20 For example I fit into 2 categories: =20 1.) Good/Great - 3PAR solution - Product was good, no issues - "Set it and forget it" type solution. Customer service was top notch. 2.) Poor/Bad - HP MSA1000 solution - Product seemed to be plagued with issues and inability of advanced configurations - Entry Level "SAN" product - kind of hard to qualify as a SAN really. Customer support was 'ok'. =20 Here is what I'm hoping to get from this. =20 1.) If 50 people reply and say they used company 'ABC' and the product 'X' and it was terrible, then I can rule out that product as an option based on word of mouth. 2.) If 50 people reply and say they used company 'CDE' and product 'Y' and its great, best blah blah blah. Then we can take a serious look at it and the company. =20 Does that make sense? I'm looking for word of mouth type recommendations or warnings. =20 Thanks! =20 Chris Taylor Sr. Oracle DBA Ingram Barge Company Nashville, TN 37205 Office: 615-517-3355 Cell: 615-354-4799 Email: chris.taylor@ingrambarge.com ________________________________ From: Taylor, Chris David=20 Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 2:56 PM To: oracle-l Subject: SAN Recommendations - Fact Finding - Help =20 My PC/LAN manager came by and asked me if I could gather some recommendations for SANs for companies running Oracle. Or types of SANS even. That's real cut and dried is it not? (Tongue planted firmly in cheek) =20 Anyway, I know everybody and their brother seems to be an Oracle partner, so there's really no help there. =20 So, now I'm wondering how I come up with information to answer this rather vague question. =20 I know we used to use an HP MSA1000 (entry-level SAN) that we had a terrible experience with. I don't know if it was solely the hardware's fault, or a combination of the hardware and lack of expertise setting it up. =20 I assume I should start with a list of features we would like to have and then cross reference those with vendors that can supply those features? Anyone know if Oracle provides consultation and recommendations for storage? =20 Thoughts? =20 =20 Chris Taylor Sr. Oracle DBA Ingram Barge Company Nashville, TN 37205 Office: 615-517-3355 Cell: 615-354-4799 Email: chris.taylor@ingrambarge.com =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C86347.96C9662C Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I’d like to re-phrase this = question.

 

Who out there is happy/ecstatic = about their SAN solution?  For those of you that fit this category, what = SAN solution do you use?

 

Who out there is unhappy/sad about = their SAN solution?  For those of you in this category, what SAN solution = do you (or did you) use?

 

For example I fit into 2 = categories:

 

1.)     = Good/Great – 3PAR solution – Product was good, = no issues – “Set it and forget it” type solution.  = Customer service was top notch.

2.)     = Poor/Bad – HP MSA1000 solution – Product seemed = to be plagued with issues and inability of advanced configurations – = Entry Level “SAN” product – kind of hard to qualify as a SAN = really. Customer support was ‘ok’.

 

Here is what I’m hoping to = get from this.

 

1.)     = If 50 people reply and say they used company = ‘ABC’ and the product ‘X’ and it was terrible, then I can rule out = that product as an option based on word of = mouth.

2.)     = If 50 people reply and say they used company = ‘CDE’ and product ‘Y’ and its great, best blah blah blah.  Then = we can take a serious look at it and the company.

 

Does that make sense?  = I’m looking for word of mouth type recommendations or = warnings.

 

Thanks!

=

 

Chris = Taylor

Sr. Oracle = DBA

Ingram Barge = Company

Nashville, TN 37205

Office: = 615-517-3355

Cell: = 615-354-4799

Email: chris.taylor@ingrambarge.com=

From: = Taylor, Chris David
Sent: Tuesday, January = 29, 2008 2:56 PM
To: oracle-l
Subject: SAN = Recommendations - Fact Finding - Help

 

My PC/LAN manager came by and asked me if I could = gather some recommendations for SANs for companies running Oracle.  Or = types of SANS even.  That’s real cut and dried is it not?  = (Tongue planted firmly in cheek)

 

Anyway, I know everybody and their brother seems to = be an Oracle partner, so there’s really no help = there.

 

So, now I’m wondering how I come up with = information to answer this rather vague question.

 

I know we used to use an HP MSA1000 (entry-level SAN) = that we had a terrible experience with.  I don’t know if it was = solely the hardware’s fault, or a combination of the hardware and lack of expertise setting it up.

 

I assume I should start with a list of features we = would like to have and then cross reference those with vendors that can supply = those features?

Anyone know if Oracle provides consultation and recommendations for storage?

 

Thoughts?

 

 

Chris = Taylor

Sr. Oracle = DBA

Ingram Barge Company

Nashville, TN 37205

Office: 615-517-3355

Cell: 615-354-4799

Email: chris.taylor@ingrambarge.com=

 

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