Return-Path: Delivered-To: 2-oracle-l@orafaq.com Received: (qmail 22173 invoked from network); 13 Sep 2007 13:57:28 -0500 Received: from freelists-180.iquest.net (HELO turing.freelists.org) (206.53.239.180) by 69.64.49.119 with SMTP; 13 Sep 2007 13:57:15 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 8BDAE73EC76; Thu, 13 Sep 2007 14:18:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30629-09; Thu, 13 Sep 2007 14:18:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D3FF273F1E2; Thu, 13 Sep 2007 14:18:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list oracle-l); Thu, 13 Sep 2007 13:33:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 4339074292D for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2007 13:30:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18355-04 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2007 13:30:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from MX4.salesforce.com (mx4.salesforce.com [63.150.46.16]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 5C13F74290B for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2007 13:30:00 -0400 (EDT) X-IronPort-AV: i="4.20,250,1186383600"; d="scan'208,217"; a="258810033:sNHT242370624" Received: from 10.0.11.3 by TMB-SF01 with ESMTP (Tumbleweed Email Firewall SMTP Relay (Email Firewall v6.2.0)); Thu, 13 Sep 2007 11:05:22 -0700 X-Server-Uuid: 4F76DE20-B023-4AFC-9B8B-CC78D6CA5946 Received: from exsfo-mb03.internal.salesforce.com ([10.0.199.42]) by exsfo-gw01.internal.salesforce.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 13 Sep 2007 11:08:32 -0700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: RE: 12i Apps on Rac - ASM or OCSF Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 11:08:32 -0700 Message-ID: <1414C623FBD7AD4CA2889B53A404B47B067E75B7@exsfo-mb03.internal.salesforce.com> In-Reply-To: <573301.11090.qm@web38205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: 12i Apps on Rac - ASM or OCSF References: <573301.11090.qm@web38205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> From: "Brian Mullin" To: katpopins21@yahoo.com, oracle-l@freelists.org X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Sep 2007 18:08:32.0553 (UTC) FILETIME=[1856F190:01C7F631] X-WSS-ID: 6AF7A4681QO6548475-01-01 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C7F631.182EE0EA" X-archive-position: 1535 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: bmullin@salesforce.com Precedence: normal Reply-to: bmullin@salesforce.com List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: oracle-l X-List-ID: oracle-l List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: oracle-l X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain ------_=_NextPart_001_01C7F631.182EE0EA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable We use ASM with an Oracle Apps instance and have had no problems. ASM is, I think, far too much headache for a DBA to deal with...and doesn't make sense for small or mid-size businesses unless part of a larger enterprise storage architecture plan. For an Oracle Apps instance, my money would be on a single node (single-user) install, multi-processor Dell with Red Hat, Veritas file system to LUNs on an Hitachi SAN. =20 Thanks! Brian =20 Brian Mullin | Sr. Oracle Applications DBA | www.Salesforce.com | P 415-536-6901 | bmullin@salesforce.com =20 From: oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of kathy duret Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 9:33 AM To: oracle-l@freelists.org Subject: 12i Apps on Rac - ASM or OCSF =20 We are going through this debate right now. =20 Our 12i Oracle Apps will be Oracle 10.2 on Linux Oracle Unbreakable, Dell hardware. EMC San Storage. =20 Dell is pushing OCSF and Oracle is pushing ASM =20 I have heard there are issues with ASM on Oracle Apps, others say that is old news. =20 Anyone out there using OCSF or ASM on Oracle Apps in a Rac environment care to toss in there hat and let me know the dirt? =20 I here ASM is a bit more complex especially on a SAN environment and you get better performance. But I heard there are bugs with Oracle Apps / Rac and you are less able to troubleshoot issues without Oracle Support. =20 Anyone with any real experiences, both pro and con? =20 Thanks again. =20 Kathy =20 ________________________________ Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C7F631.182EE0EA Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

We use ASM with an Oracle Apps instance and have had no problems.  ASM is, I think, far too much headache for a DBA to deal = with…and doesn't make sense for small or mid-size businesses unless part of a = larger enterprise storage architecture plan.  For an Oracle Apps instance, = my money would be on a single node (single-user) install, multi-processor = Dell with Red Hat, Veritas file system to LUNs on an Hitachi = SAN.

 

Thanks!

Brian

 

Brian Mullin | Sr. Oracle Applications DBA | www.Salesforce.com | P = 415-536-6901 | bmullin@salesforce.com<= o:p>

From:= oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org] = On Behalf Of kathy duret
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 9:33 AM
To: oracle-l@freelists.org
Subject: 12i Apps on Rac - ASM or OCSF

 

We are going through this debate right = now.

 

Our 12i Oracle Apps will be Oracle 10.2 on Linux = Oracle Unbreakable, Dell hardware.  EMC San Storage.

 

Dell is pushing OCSF and Oracle is pushing = ASM

 

I have heard there are issues with ASM on Oracle = Apps, others say that is old news.

 

Anyone out there using OCSF or ASM on Oracle Apps = in a Rac environment care to toss in there hat and let me know the = dirt?

 

I here ASM is a bit more complex especially on a = SAN environment and you get better performance.  But I heard there are = bugs with Oracle Apps / Rac and you are less able

to troubleshoot issues without Oracle = Support.

 

Anyone with any real experiences, both pro and = con?

 

Thanks again.

 

Kathy

 

Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - = their life, your story.
Play = Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games.

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