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Reminds me of the old JD Edwards "while paper" that stated that the
Oracle parameter "SPIN_COUNT" should be set to a value derived from the
number of disk drives on which the database is housed&nbsp; multipled by the
RPM of those drives.&nbsp; For example, if your database is situated on
eight hard drives of 10,000 rpm apiece, then the Oracle parameter
"SPIN_COUNT" (later "_SPIN_COUNT") should be set to 80,000.<br>
<br>
When I worked at Oracle Consulting in the 1990s, I worked for the
"commercial" consulting group that dealt with non-government,
non-military customers -- governmental or military organizations were
the province of the "federal" consulting group.&nbsp; One day, one of the
practice managers from the "federal" group stopped by to get something
off his chest.&nbsp; He asked us why our group was dealing with "Federal
Express" and why the "federal" group wasn't handling that customer?&nbsp;
Ummm.... hmmmm.... where to start?&nbsp; I'm surprised he didn't ask why we
were dealing with "General Motors", as well... too bad he didn't ask
about "corporal punishment"... :-)<br>
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You just can't make this stuff up.&nbsp; &lt;shake-of-head&gt;<br>
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Andrew Kerber wrote:
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 type="cite">I recently received a copy of a 'best practices' document
that says
that users should not have access to any 'all_' views.&nbsp; Its a
really stupid idea, I suspect that whoever put it in the document
thinks that all actually looks at all, as opposed to just what the user
has access to. <br>
  <br>
  <div><span class="gmail_quote">On 8/8/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">JOHNSTON,
WAYNE</b> &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:wjohnsto@fccj.edu">wjohnsto@fccj.edu</a>&gt;
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    <p><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Ram,</span></p>
    <p><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">&nbsp;</span></p>
    <p><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">It may
be just my nature, but I have to ask why you want to do
this?&nbsp; Is there some audit requirement that a user not query all_tables
to see
the tables he has been granted access to?&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;</span></p>
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oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org</a>] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Ram Srinivasan<br>
    <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 07, 2007 5:49 PM<br>
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    <b>Subject:</b> RE: Can we revoke select priv from all_users
tables??</span></p>
    </div>
    <p>&nbsp;</p>
    <div>
    <p>All:</p>
    </div>
    <div>
    <p>&nbsp; I am creating a user as:</p>
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    <div>
    <p>&nbsp;</p>
    </div>
    <div>
    <p>create user test1 identified by fannymayofomaha</p>
    </div>
    <div>
    <p>default tablespace def001</p>
    </div>
    <div>
    <p>temporary tablespace temp01;<br clear="all">
    </p>
    </div>
    <div>
    <p>&nbsp; This user test1 has access to all the user_&nbsp;
tables and all_&nbsp; tables.&nbsp; I believe that when a user is created he
automatically receives the select priv to these all_ and user_ tables.</p>
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    <p>&nbsp;</p>
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    <div>
    <p>&nbsp; Is there a way to REVOKE the select priv from the
all_ tables for this user?</p>
    </div>
    <div>
    <p>&nbsp;</p>
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    <div>
    <p>&nbsp; Thanks for your input.</p>
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    <p><br>
-- <br>
Sincerely<br>
Ram Srinivasan<br>
Charlottesville, VA. </p>
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-- <br>
Andrew W. Kerber<br>
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