Return-Path: Delivered-To: 2-oracle-l@orafaq.com Received: (qmail 20030 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2007 08:38:26 -0600 Received: from freelists-180.iquest.net (HELO turing.freelists.org) (206.53.239.180) by 69.64.49.119 with SMTP; 2 Feb 2007 08:38:25 -0600 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 844315D2BB8; Fri, 2 Feb 2007 09:37:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 19985-03; Fri, 2 Feb 2007 09:37:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 1887A5D2B84; Fri, 2 Feb 2007 09:37:12 -0500 (EST) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list oracle-l); Fri, 02 Feb 2007 09:35:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id D58BF5D2BA2 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 2007 09:35:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 19699-02-3 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 2007 09:35:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.251]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 78D715D2B1C for ; Fri, 2 Feb 2007 09:35:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b8so535937ana for ; Fri, 02 Feb 2007 06:37:08 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=VTBJfGEso6lveo4308ucfpyCBteUYBGw/banZWLqWgnzjqpCFiBWTF5T8ufHGmhRkxxJn8aBMqi/PrrdV35uyO6AzXIw0UlIpvYnxHZSD0bxPqZopzYVUCOT/TluFtEgQW20JlqZ8cmbQ9Pawomz2G3DS6yVFU8ETB8WkIgMKSg= Received: by 10.115.106.7 with SMTP id i7mr297068wam.1170427027771; Fri, 02 Feb 2007 06:37:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.115.78.6 with HTTP; Fri, 2 Feb 2007 06:37:07 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <7b8774110702020637w6ed2377dhade4c8d02acbd09@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 08:37:07 -0600 From: "Charles Schultz" To: "LS Cheng" Subject: Re: OCM Oracle Certified Master exam preparation Cc: sjaffarhussain@gmail.com, ranko.mosic@gmail.com, oracle-l In-Reply-To: <6e9345580702020628j5b459574v18602fe6933056fe@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_10466_1607791.1170427027741" References: <367369f10702011754w46cf9595sfc1cb34359394f38@mail.gmail.com> <97b7fd2f0702020456w5784b681y1be680f76bd380bd@mail.gmail.com> <6e9345580702020509q6c545520o7f4a578b84a528f7@mail.gmail.com> <7b8774110702020604v3421263cm6303101111222cce@mail.gmail.com> <6e9345580702020628j5b459574v18602fe6933056fe@mail.gmail.com> X-archive-position: 45077 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org Errors-to: oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: sacrophyte@gmail.com Precedence: normal Reply-to: sacrophyte@gmail.com List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: oracle-l X-List-ID: oracle-l List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: oracle-l X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at avenirtech.net ------=_Part_10466_1607791.1170427027741 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Bad idea. *grin* Seriously, practicing and actually exercising the areas that you are weak in would be a very good thing to do. If you were interviewing for a prestigious consulting firm, would you want to depend on finding "stuffs" in your carry-along documentation? If you were trying out for a sports team and could do one aspect really well, but really poorly in other areas, do you think you would make the team? On 2/2/07, LS Cheng wrote: > > For example the candidate guides states that Streams is included, I wont > lie and I admit that I have not used Streams before not in 9i nor 10g and > probably I wont use it in the next 2 years. > > But hey I am quite good find stuffs in the documentation, since we can > bring a copy of that to the exam I might be safe? :-P^ > > > > > > > On 2/2/07, Charles Schultz wrote: > > > > That's the point. =) Let me quote a couple folks: > > > > - "Scenarios must be completed within a specific time, which > > requires candidates to use an organized approach, tap into their expertise, > > and deploy best practices in order to effectively complete the stated > > tasks." Jim Dilanni, http://www.oracle.com/technology/oramag/oracle/04-mar/o24tech_ocp.html > > > > - "Effective time management is a critical success factor. The > > exam modules are designed to fill the entire time period. Although you don't > > necessarily have to succeed in or complete every task to pass, you should > > spend the entire time span accomplishing as much as you can. Expect to be > > working two 8-to-8.5-hour days. Don't book your return flight for > > 2 p.m. the second day!" Gerry Jurrens http://www.oracle.com/technology/oramag/oracle/04-may/o34tech_ocp.html > > > > > > > > The OCM is not a quiz, it is a test of how well you know your stuff. > > There are some things that you may find very easy because you do them every > > day; and others that you may find difficult because you only read about > > them. It might be wise to do more than just read about those things you do > > not do everyday. If you can master the basic concepts, you will have laid a > > good foundation in preparing for this challenge. > > > > > > On 2/2/07, LS Cheng wrote: > > > > > > Have you looked at the 10g candidate guide, I wonder how can all that > > > covered in two days.... > > > > > > On 2/2/07, Syed Jaffar Hussain < sjaffarhussain@gmail.com > wrote: > > > > > > > > Ranko, > > > > > > > > I was looking for the same information, and consulted couple of 10g > > > > OCM guys in order to get some help on the material and topics. They simply > > > > said to cover everything mentioned in the course/exam curriculum/objectives. > > > > Since they sign bond not to disclose the course contents, they never say > > > > anything specific other than mentioned with course objectives. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Jaffar > > > > > > > > On 2/2/07, Ranko Mosic < ranko.mosic@gmail.com > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi List, > > > > > I am looking for pointers to material that could help exam > > > > > preparation > > > > > ( besides standard sources ). > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Ranko Mosic > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Charles Schultz > > > -- Charles Schultz ------=_Part_10466_1607791.1170427027741 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Bad idea. *grin*
Seriously, practicing and actually exercising the areas that you are weak in would be a very good thing to do. If you were interviewing for a prestigious consulting firm, would you want to depend on finding "stuffs" in your carry-along documentation? If you were trying out for a sports team and could do one aspect really well, but really poorly in other areas, do you think you would make the team?

On 2/2/07, LS Cheng <exriscer@gmail.com> wrote:
For example the candidate guides states that Streams is included, I wont lie and I admit that I have not used Streams before not in 9i nor 10g and probably I wont use it in the next 2 years.
 
But hey I am quite good find stuffs in the documentation, since we can bring a copy of that to the exam I might be safe? :-P^
 
 
 


 
On 2/2/07, Charles Schultz <sacrophyte@gmail.com > wrote:
That's the point. =) Let me quote a couple folks:
  • "Scenarios must be completed within a specific time, which requires candidates to use an organized approach, tap into their expertise, and deploy best practices in order to effectively complete the stated tasks." Jim Dilanni, http://www.oracle.com/technology/oramag/oracle/04-mar/o24tech_ocp.html
  • "Effective time management is a critical success factor. The exam modules are designed to fill the entire time period. Although you don't necessarily have to succeed in or complete every task to pass, you should spend the entire time span accomplishing as much as you can. Expect to be working two 8-to-8.5-hour days. Don't book your return flight for 2 p.m. the second day!" Gerry Jurrens http://www.oracle.com/technology/oramag/oracle/04-may/o34tech_ocp.html

The OCM is not a quiz, it is a test of how well you know your stuff. There are some things that you may find very easy because you do them every day; and others that you may find difficult because you only read about them. It might be wise to do more than just read about those things you do not do everyday. If you can master the basic concepts, you will have laid a good foundation in preparing for this challenge.


On 2/2/07, LS Cheng <exriscer@gmail.com > wrote:
Have you looked at the 10g candidate guide, I wonder how can all that covered in two days....


On 2/2/07, Syed Jaffar Hussain < sjaffarhussain@gmail.com > wrote:
Ranko,

I was looking for the same information, and consulted couple of 10g OCM guys in order to get some help on the material and topics. They simply said to cover everything mentioned in the course/exam curriculum/objectives. Since they sign bond not to disclose the course contents, they  never say anything specific other than mentioned with course objectives.

Regards,

Jaffar


On 2/2/07, Ranko Mosic < ranko.mosic@gmail.com > wrote:
Hi List,
I am looking for pointers to material that could help exam preparation
( besides standard sources ).

--
Regards,
Ranko Mosic

--
Charles Schultz




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