From oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org Thu Nov 17 14:32:01 2005 Return-Path: Received: from air891.startdedicated.com (root@localhost) by orafaq.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id jAHKVt3F026483 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2005 14:32:00 -0600 X-ClientAddr: 206.53.239.180 Received: from turing.freelists.org (freelists-180.iquest.net [206.53.239.180]) by air891.startdedicated.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id jAHKVYAX026377 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2005 14:31:39 -0600 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id B6F0A22F8BB; Thu, 17 Nov 2005 14:30:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 04164-08; Thu, 17 Nov 2005 14:30:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 3F1A622F49C; Thu, 17 Nov 2005 14:30:18 -0500 (EST) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list oracle-l); Thu, 17 Nov 2005 14:28:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 74ACB22FA21 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2005 14:28:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 03721-05 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2005 14:28:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from xproxy.gmail.com (xproxy.gmail.com [66.249.82.207]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 1071F22FA11 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2005 14:28:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i32so380wxd for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2005 11:28:21 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=fvdmd9nDI9tZnH6FSrKrrS+GcMZcH4DiJUWkGq4HNPNYkl70E7vyxspzG6ah/2sMmF6rQboIPzrmdDzdWU37p5dXyz9qW9nrnFR0KBYelycedSorL3D59hPCHih/LpawNCOXYiWpTXkZ2SXGGGkuvFnOlKoCq71JeNQwOPsedQ4= Received: by 10.11.119.37 with SMTP id r37mr1405cwc; Thu, 17 Nov 2005 11:28:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.11.117.67 with HTTP; Thu, 17 Nov 2005 11:28:21 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 14:28:21 -0500 From: Jared Still To: belvdr@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Making sure all objects moved Cc: oracle-l@freelists.org In-Reply-To: <20051117145642.70633.qmail@web32411.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_9131_19888475.1132255701199" References: <20051117145642.70633.qmail@web32411.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-archive-position: 28457 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org Errors-To: oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: jkstill@gmail.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: jkstill@gmail.com X-list: oracle-l X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p9 (Debian) at avenirtech.net X-mailscan-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-mailscan-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on air891.startdedicated.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=ham version=2.63 ------=_Part_9131_19888475.1132255701199 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Tom is correct. What was I thinking. (apparently I wasn't ) INSERT's generate very little undo, as there is no before image to save. Learn something every day here. :) Jared On 11/17/05, Thomas Fox wrote: > > In regards to commit=3Dy, there is a discussion regarding the amount of u= ndo > that > is needed. Tom Kyte gave one answer, while the Oracle 9i docs gave a > different > answer. > > > http://asktom.oracle.com/pls/ask/f?p=3D4950:8:::::F4950_P8_DISPLAYID:2302= 14032357 > > My question to Tom, and his reply with an example, is near the bottom. > Just > search for "Tom Fox from Cinti, OH". > > Tom > > --- Jared Still wrote: > > > commit=3Dy - Commits the data every time the buffer fills. > > easier on UNDO resources if it is a large import. > > Some imports should not be done this way, appending > > data for instance. ( not fun to fix if the imp dies part way through, > > after 1+ commits) > > > > ------=_Part_9131_19888475.1132255701199 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
Tom is correct.
 
What was I thinking. (apparently I wasn't )
 
INSERT's generate very little undo, as there is no before image to sav= e.
 
Learn something every day here.  :)
 
Jared

 
On 11/17/05, Thomas Fox <belvdr@yahoo.com> wrote:
In regards to commit=3Dy, there = is a discussion regarding the amount of undo that
is needed.  = Tom Kyte gave one answer, while the Oracle 9i docs gave a different
answer.

http://asktom.oracle.com/pls/ask/f?p= =3D4950:8:::::F4950_P8_DISPLAYID:230214032357

My question to Tom= , and his reply with an example, is near the bottom.  Just
search for "Tom Fox  from Cinti, OH".

Tom
--- Jared Still <jkstill@gmail= .com> wrote:

> commit=3Dy - Commits the data every time th= e buffer fills.
> easier on UNDO resources if it is a large import.
> Some imp= orts should not be done this way, appending
> data for instance. ( no= t fun to fix if the imp dies part way through,
> after 1+ commits)
>

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