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Subject: RE: DBA_SEGMENTS invalid? or slow?
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The truncate command never releases the initial extent of the table or
its associated indexes if any.  In the future I have heard Oracle is
going to support defining tables and indexes without allocating storage.
But at present if the table/index exists it takes at least one extent.
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Subject: DBA_SEGMENTS invalid? or slow?



When I query dba_segments I get:

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owner     segment_name  partition_name segment_type  tablespace_name
header_file   header_block  bytes     blocks    extents
initial_extent next_extent   min_extents   max_extents   pct_increase
freelists freelist_groups    relative_fno  buffer_pool

REPADMIN  T_INSTRU_LDGR T_INSTRU_LDGR_200504    TABLE PARTITION
TS_LDGR_M2    71   1289 2212495360    270080    211  10485760
10485760  1    2147483645    0    1    1    71   DEFAULT

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Yet, when I map the tablespace, there are no extents. We have done a
truncate of the partition with a drop storage, and it shows storage.

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What's up with this?

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Database is 9.2.0.6

HP-UX.

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Michael Kline
Database Administration
SunTrust Banks, Inc.
Mail Code TOC-7505

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Tel: 804.261.9446  Net: 643.9446

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extent.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier =
New'">owner&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
segment_name&nbsp; partition_name segment_type&nbsp;=20
tablespace_name&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; header_file&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
header_block&nbsp; bytes&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
blocks&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
extents&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; initial_extent next_extent&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
min_extents&nbsp;&nbsp; max_extents&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
pct_increase&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; freelists =
freelist_groups&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
relative_fno&nbsp; buffer_pool</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">REPADMIN&nbsp; =
T_INSTRU_LDGR=20
T_INSTRU_LDGR_200504&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; TABLE =
PARTITION&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
TS_LDGR_M2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 71&nbsp;&nbsp; 1289 =
2212495360&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
270080&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 211&nbsp; 10485760&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
10485760&nbsp; 1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 2147483645&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
0&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
71&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
DEFAULT</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier =
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">Yet, when I map =
the=20
tablespace, there are no extents. We have done a truncate of the =
partition with=20
a drop storage, and it shows storage.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier =
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">What&#8217;s up =
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this?</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier =
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">Database is=20
9.2.0.6</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier =
New'">HP-UX.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier =
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Kline<BR>Database=20
Administration<BR>SunTrust Banks, Inc.<BR>Mail Code =
TOC-7505</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">1030 Wilmer=20
Avenue<BR>Richmond, Va.&nbsp; 23227<BR>Tel:&nbsp;804.261.9446&nbsp;=20
Net:&nbsp;643.9446</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">Cell:=20
804.744.1545<BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT face=3DArial><SPAN=20
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