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RE: How can I get the BBED password?

From: Parker, Matthew <>
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 00:21:55 -0700
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An excellent observation Tanel.
Abraham, what exactly are you looking to accomplish? The standard dump = utilities of Oracle provide most of what you may be looking for. Out of = all the block repairs I have had to do over the years, the only thing = bbed has provided me is the ability to run a verify on the block I have = repaired before I replace the block in the file, since dbv requires the = block to be a part of the file, otherwise I find the tool to be less = than useful.=20

In the world there are about 7 Oracle BDE/RDBMS development people who = can edit blocks well and only 1 or 2 others who understand and try to = edit the redo stream, and in my dealings with most of them they have = their own tools because bbed is archaic. The lower end Support personnel = who do use bbed, normally do not have the skills or knowledge to edit = the blocks in the first place.

If you are trying to understand block structures, then you should read = the documentation and the many papers that are available. There is no = single source of information that will tell you everything and there are = a lot of flags and pointer values that are not documented anywhere but = in the code itself. In the last year working on lots of block = corruptions from Linux induced problems, almost every time, the actual = people who can edit blocks well, had to reference the code for = determination of some of the flags. It is just the reality that = everyone, can't know everything.
So back to the question, what are you truly trying to find out? The tool = has no training mode and it does not document the oracle block structure = for you.=20

-----Original Message-----
From: =
[] On Behalf Of Tanel P=F5der Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 3:24 PM
Subject: Re: How can I get the BBED password?


It's a really trivial task to find the password if you think about it a = bit,=20
that's why I think it's everyone's own responsibility to find it out if = you=20
actually need the utility. Also, the more people start messing up their=20 databases with bbed, the more likely will Oracle remove it from next=20 distribution at all or encrypt the password or similar...


> Hello all,
> I'm trying to dump some blocks with bbed. It asks for a password.
> According to Steve Adams, if I used strings on bbed I should find the
> password in 30 seconds... It's been 3 days... anybody know how to find
> it?
> TIA.
> Abraham Guerra
> American Family Insurance
> Oracle DBA
> --

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