From oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org Mon Dec 27 17:34:25 2004 Return-Path: Received: from air189.startdedicated.com (root@localhost) by orafaq.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id iBRNYPQ20730 for ; Mon, 27 Dec 2004 17:34:25 -0600 X-ClientAddr: 206.53.239.180 Received: from turing.freelists.org (freelists-180.iquest.net [206.53.239.180]) by air189.startdedicated.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id iBRNYPn20725 for ; Mon, 27 Dec 2004 17:34:25 -0600 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 4188172C98A; Mon, 27 Dec 2004 18:40:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26852-54; Mon, 27 Dec 2004 18:40:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id E1D6772C9FC; Mon, 27 Dec 2004 18:40:47 -0500 (EST) From: "Ellis R. Miller" To: , Subject: RE: When one can call oneself expert Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 17:38:55 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Thread-Index: AcTpTmLmi7Wmn735SK+NDKf8oYnEhADFrCMgAAD06CA= X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <20041227233901.8F13672C976@turing.freelists.org> X-archive-position: 14199 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org Errors-To: oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: sartre1@comcast.net Precedence: normal Reply-To: sartre1@comcast.net X-list: oracle-l X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at freelists.org We know accurately only when we know little; with knowledge doubt enters. Johann Wolfgang Von Goethe Doubt is not a pleasant condition, but certainty is an absurd one. Voltaire And the capstone quote of the day signifying my "who gives a s***t about what the mass of corporate idiots think about pretty much anything: To be nobody but myself in a world which is doing its best, night and day, to make you everybody else means to fight the hardest battle which any human being can fight and never stop fighting. EE Cummings Personally, I would rather stab myself to death with a rusty ballpoint pen (any color ink) than earn the respect of those mindless Stepford vending-machine/PowerPoint gluttons in Fortune 500 IT departments all across this great SUV land...whose last technical innovation was the silent office chair fart and the circa 1979 technical phrase "pretty slick." If you are an expert at Marketing then advertise yourself as a super duper Oracle expert and please make sure you tell me about that next $300/hr gig so I can have a good laugh, too. I truly enjoy reading about that next IT fleecing at the expense of the IT Manager who almost completed his BS in Home Economics before the SEC raided the Jamaican correspondence school. In contrast, anyone who really gives a win-one-for-the-Gipper f***k wouldn't spend too much time pondering the semantics (although I did almost major in Journalism). On the other hand, researchers have recently discovered the male period. "Gee, Dad, I just don't think I am going to make varsity cheerleading this year. Do you think I am good enough, I mean, am I really varsity Oracle male cheerleader material?" "Listen, Beaver, if you are varsity Oracle male cheerleader material then Larry and your good, golly jeepers peers will let you know Beav. Just make sure to wear your Oracle 'spankies' under that red 'Powered by Oracle' skirt and show your team spirit, son." "Gee, Dad, thanks. You sure are swell." By the way, just so everyone knows, I am working on two new book titles for the coming year: "Dear God, It's Me Margaret, Am I an Oracle Expert?" "Chicken Soup for the Troubled Oracle Expert." Ellis -----Original Message----- From: oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Aragon, Gabriel (GE Commercial Finance) Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 4:55 PM To: oracle-l@freelists.org Subject: RE: When one can call oneself expert Gosh, I hope its not too late to write my comments, Juan, basically, sometimes you study and prepare many years so you can = write (somewhere next to your name) that you are an expert, but you = know.. when you become an expert you'll realize that is unnecessary = writing it for the others to notice.. they already knew it..=20 Someone said this: "The true test of character is not how much we know how to do, but how = we behave when we don't know what to do". =3D) -----Original Message----- From: oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org]On Behalf Of Thomas Day Sent: Jueves, 23 de Diciembre de 2004 06:19 p.m. To: oracle-l@freelists.org Subject: Re: When one can call oneself expert I find that my best answer is, "I don't know, yet, but I will." I don't have the answer at my fingertips but I do know where in the documentation to look for them (and which mail list to ask if the documentation doesn't have the answer). I would guess that being seen as an Oracle expert consists of having made all the big mistakes somewhere else and not repeating them on this job. BTW - I just found out that if you have a Java app querrying your database and you have lazy Java programmers then you'd better use US7ASCII as your character set. -- http://www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l -- http://www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l -- http://www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l