From oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org Mon Jun 28 11:20:37 2004 Return-Path: Received: from air189.startdedicated.com (root@localhost) by orafaq.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id i5SGKMc23305 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 11:20:32 -0500 X-ClientAddr: 206.53.239.180 Received: from turing.freelists.org (freelists-180.iquest.net [206.53.239.180]) by air189.startdedicated.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id i5SGKB623274 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 11:20:21 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 24B3972C0EB; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 11:02:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 27092-89; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 11:02:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 7105C72C0A3; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 11:02:56 -0500 (EST) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list oracle-l); Mon, 28 Jun 2004 11:01:28 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: oracle-l@freelists.org Delivered-To: oracle-l@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 5256C72C9EA for ; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 11:01:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 27094-42 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 11:01:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from web13423.mail.yahoo.com (web13423.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.154]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with SMTP id A56EB72C9BE for ; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 11:01:06 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <20040628162328.71495.qmail@web13423.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.79.222.119] by web13423.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 28 Jun 2004 09:23:28 PDT Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 09:23:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Peter Barnett Subject: RE: wow, i'm surprised, signoff To: oracle-l@freelists.org In-Reply-To: <7E0DB3A126BA9146AC30744E2B7E42459742D4@midhouhqxch01.net.smith.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at freelists.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-archive-position: 3820 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org Errors-To: oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: regdba@yahoo.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: oracle-l@freelists.org X-list: oracle-l X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at freelists.org One of the advantages to a lot of gray hair is that you have screwed up in every way possible. Sometimes two, or three times. From this you learn to test everything before it goes into production. Even if someone posts a serious suggestion, it should be tested in your environment. This has nothing to do with being politically correct but doing your job in a conscientious manner. If someone posts bogus commands you learn two things from your testing: it does not work and who you can trust. Both are valuable lessons. If you choose to go straight to production you learn the same lessons but the whole company also gets to share in your experience. Not a good thing. --- "Nelson, Allan" wrote: > A request not to joke in such a way that > inexperienced people might take > =66or real suggestions is not political correctness, > IMO. Given the > number of such posts of his in the past, it is a > little surprising to > see that particular one singled out. It's too bad > that people are > leaving over it as it is a trivial issue, again IMO. > > Good luck to all who choose to leave. I'm sorry to > see longtime members > go over this. > > Allan > > -----Original Message----- > =46rom: oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org > [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of > Goulet, Dick > Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 10:29 AM > To: oracle-l@freelists.org; jtesta@dmc-it.com > Subject: RE: wow, i'm surprised, signoff > > > Joe, > > Sorry to see you go & sorry to hear that you feel > that way. > "Political =3D > correctness" I'm afraid is here to stay, or should I > say it's fear of =3D > being sued over something that was taken out of > context. I know I have > =3D > to watch what I say & that keeps my participation in > the list down. But > =3D > this I think is still a very good forum for all of > us, you included. =3D > Now if there was just some way to put an end to > those damned lawyers =3D > we'd all be happier. > > Dick Goulet > Senior Oracle DBA > Oracle Certified 8i DBA > > -----Original Message----- > =46rom: jtesta@dmc-it.com [mailto:jtesta@dmc-it.com] > Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 10:06 AM > To: oracle-l@freelists.org > Subject: wow, i'm surprised, signoff > > > What a bunch of cry babies, anything posted in a > public forum should be > taken with a grain of salt, i see that $hit called > political correctness > has made its way here also. > > Too bad, there used to be alot of good information > passed around here, > > Jared don't bother banning my A$$ since as soon as > this is posted i'll =3D > be > removing all of my email addresses. > > Its been fun but a/o recent it aint been fun at all. > > joe > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: > http://www.orafaq.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe send email to: > oracle-l-request@freelists.org > put 'unsubscribe' in the subject line. > -- > Archives are at > http://www.freelists.org/archives/oracle-l/ > =46AQ is at > http://www.freelists.org/help/fom-serve/cache/1.html > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: > http://www.orafaq.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe send email to: > oracle-l-request@freelists.org > put 'unsubscribe' in the subject line. > -- > Archives are at > http://www.freelists.org/archives/oracle-l/ > =46AQ is at > http://www.freelists.org/help/fom-serve/cache/1.html > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > > ______________________________________________________________________________ > This email is intended solely for the person or > entity to which it is addressed and may contain > confidential and/or privileged information. > Copying, forwarding or distributing this message by > persons or entities other than the addressee is > prohibited. If you have received this email in > error, please contact the sender immediately and > delete the material from any computer. This email > may have been monitored for policy compliance. > [021216] > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: > http://www.orafaq.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe send email to: > oracle-l-request@freelists.org > put 'unsubscribe' in the subject line. > -- > Archives are at > http://www.freelists.org/archives/oracle-l/ > FAQ is at > http://www.freelists.org/help/fom-serve/cache/1.html > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > ===== Pete Barnett Lead Database Administrator The Regence Group pnbarne@regence.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! 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