i was referring to the it2c experience certifications.
>
> From: "Mercadante, Thomas F" <thomas.mercadante_at_labor.state.ny.us>
> Date: 2004/03/24 Wed AM 08:57:56 EST
> To: "'oracle-l_at_freelists.org'" <oracle-l_at_freelists.org>
> Subject: RE: RE: OCP Preperation -Any Recommended Books , Links , Docs ?
>
> the OCM exam costs $2000. plus at least on required Oracle class.
>
> Tom Mercadante
> Oracle Certified Professional
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ryan.gaffuri_at_cox.net [mailto:ryan.gaffuri_at_cox.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 8:39 AM
> To: oracle-l_at_freelists.org
> Subject: Re: RE: OCP Preperation -Any Recommended Books , Links , Docs ?
>
>
> i went to the website and didn't see anything about pricing. how much does
> this stuff costs? If you look at what they are really doing it's what an HR
> department does when you go for an interview and you do not have to pay for
> it. You just sign papers giving them the right to conduct a background
> check.
>
> I hope this doesn't catch on or its several thousand dollars out of our
> pockets just for another piece of paper.
> >
> > From: "TOMPKINS, MARGARET" <MARGARET.TOMPKINS_at_DFAS.MIL>
> > Date: 2004/03/24 Wed AM 07:59:46 EST
> > To: <oracle-l_at_freelists.org>
> > Subject: RE: OCP Preperation -Any Recommended Books , Links , Docs ?
> >
> > I'm familiar with the OCM. I know of one company, ITC2, that is starting
> to do experienced based certifications and was wondering if there were
> others out there. Maggie
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org
> [mailto:oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org]On Behalf Of Lex de Haan
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 2:19 PM
> > To: oracle-l_at_freelists.org
> > Subject: RE: OCP Preperation -Any Recommended Books , Links , Docs ?
> >
> >
> > I think you are referring to the OCM programme -- Oracle Certified
> Masters. that's a tough one indeed, and it involves some real problem
> scenarios to be solved, on a standalone Linux box, under quite some time
> pressure. it is not cheap, though, and there are only a limited number of
> places where you can take those exams. search for OU and certification on
> the Oracle website, and I guess you will find more info ...
> >
> > hope this helps, kind regards,
> > Lex.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org
> [mailto:oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org]On Behalf Of TOMPKINS, MARGARET
> > Sent: dinsdag 23 maart 2004 20:33
> > To: oracle-l_at_freelists.org
> > Subject: RE: OCP Preperation -Any Recommended Books , Links , Docs ?
> >
> >
> > I'm starting to see some experienced based certifications. They are case
> studies reviewed by experts. It would be more like an essay exam than
> multiple choice. Interviews are also a part of the process. Does anyone
> have experience with those? Maggie
> >
> > Respectfully,
> > Maggie Tompkins - CAD SQA
> > Corporate Applications Division
> > Technology Services Organization - Kansas City
> > Defense Finance and Accounting Service
> > 816-926-1117 (DSN 465); Margaret.Tompkins_at_dfas.mil
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org
> [mailto:oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org]On Behalf Of Chris Stephens
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 12:41 PM
> > To: 'oracle-l_at_freelists.org'
> > Subject: RE: OCP Preperation -Any Recommended Books , Links , Docs ?
> >
> >
> >
> > I wholeheartedly agree. ...but I think it is also true that even among
> non-dba types, the legitimacy of the ocp is declining due to the fact that
> there are so many people out there that pass the tests because they have a
> 'question repository'. I remember trying to aquire the classroom
> documentation via the internet because my company would not send me to the
> classes (nor did I want to go to the class). In my search I came across
> several dba forums where the exact questions and answers were laid out for
> everyone to see. ...it's crap. ...it's also one of the (probably too few)
> times in my life where I took the moral high road and went on to the next
> google hit...often not before posting a nasty message to the forum.
> >
> >
> >
> > Hell...I studied the documentation from the classes and investigated what
> I didn't understand via working through examples and referencing the
> official documentation. I felt pretty good about getting the certification
> and felt I was a fully competent dba. ...and then I joined this list and
> realized just how little I knew. ...I shudder to think what has happened at
> companies where some newly knighted ocp lands a production dba gig with all
> the confidence that (sometimes) comes by passing the tests. ...I struggle
> with not screwing things up as it is! :-)
> >
> >
> >
> > I know this has been discussed before.......but this hits home. I am
> currently looking for a job and because I don't personally feel I'm at the
> sr. dba level and as a result don't market myself as such, my resume
> probably gets lumped in with a bunch of people who hold certifications but
> can't do a d_at_mn thing!! ...and given the current market situation, it's not
> a fun place to be!
> >
> >
> >
> > Woo. That felt good. ...back to reading oracle design. ...thanks mogens
> for reminding me just how good this book is!
> >
> >
> >
> > chris
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jared.Still_at_radisys.com [mailto:Jared.Still_at_radisys.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 11:40 AM
> > To: oracle-l_at_freelists.org
> > Subject: RE: OCP Preperation -Any Recommended Books , Links , Docs ?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > ..if it has any value at all.
> >
> > I must disagree with this statement.
> >
> > True, it may have no value among your Oracle peers.
> >
> > But I doubt that anyone here is getting it to impress their peers. We
> > all know better. Wrong answers, dumb questions, etc.
> >
> > The OCP may be the deciding factor when applying for employment.
> >
> > Check monster.com and dice.com. I have seen ads on several occasions
> > that *require* OCP.
> >
> > It may also be tied to an individuals employment grade and/or salary
> increase.
> >
> > You just need to consider another perspective on the subject.
> >
> > Jared
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Chris Stephens <ChrisStephens_at_affina.com>
> > Sent by: oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org
> >
> > 03/23/2004 05:36 AM
> > Please respond to oracle-l
> >
> >
> > To: "'oracle-l_at_freelists.org'" <oracle-l_at_freelists.org>
> > cc:
> > Subject: RE: OCP Preperation -Any Recommended Books , Links
> , Docs ?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > And this is one of the reasons ocp gets to be less and less valuable....if
> > it has any value at all.
> >
> > ...study the database...not the questions.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Kommareddy, Srinivas (MED, Wissen Infotech)
> > [mailto:Srinivas.Kommareddy_at_med.ge.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 3:51 AM
> > To: oracle-l_at_freelists.org;
> > "'=SMTP:oracledba_at_lazydba.com'"@int-nj2gw-1.online-age.net
> > Subject: RE: OCP Preperation -Any Recommended Books , Links , Docs ?
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Do you need an easy way ?
> >
> > ping me personallly if you need the question bank. You willl get more than
> > 60-70% of the questions in the exam from this question bank.
> >
> > Thanks and Regads,
> > Srinivas
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org [mailto:oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org]
> > On Behalf Of VIVEK_SHARMA
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 3:04 PM
> > To: oracle-l_at_freelists.org; LazyDBA.com Discussion
> > Subject: OCP Preperation -Any Recommended Books , Links , Docs ?
> >
> >
> > Thanks
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